Originally Posted By Mr X <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3jx_zpyJY7Y&feature=channel" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v...=channel</a> I know there have been questionable moments in the past, but I sort of gave him a pass...but MAN this seems like someone who is truly three sheets to the wind... Tell me I'm wrong.
Originally Posted By Mr X Particularly from around 3:20 or so... I've seen drunk folks before...this is some seriously intoxicated drunkenness if you ask me. Just sayin...
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Originally Posted By mawnck Naaahhh, wouldn't say one way or the other. It's friggin 3:20 in the morning. Dude is probably tired. Or maybe drunk. Who knows? Seems to me it would be the Dems who would be drunk by then.
Originally Posted By Mr X I meant 3:20 minute marker on the video bro. Sorry for the lack of clarity (and lack of clarity is EXACTLY what I'm talking about here lol). I'm so very very serious, is this not incredibly obvious to anyone else? Not only slurring of speech, but long pauses, clear confusion, emotional instability, lack of perception, wobbling, etc...the guy is clearly intoxicated! I'd put that evidence before a jury without hesitation!
Originally Posted By Donny I am not a fan of John Boehner but at the 3:20 mark he is truely choaked up about his love of country,his father and friends and family.But this is a great example of how Mr.X tries to lie and distort things to make republicans look like fools.
Originally Posted By mawnck >>Sorry for the lack of clarity<< Probably not your fault. I'm zonked on cold medicine myself. However, the video IS from around 3 AM. This jury member still isn't convinced.
Originally Posted By wahooskipper Republicans do fine looking like fools without Mr X's help. I haven't seen the YouTube video but I saw excerpts from his speech on the news outlets this morning and I didn't think at the time he was drunk. But, if he was...so what? If I were elected President of the United States you can be sure the Mrs. and I would be thoroughly enjoying our first evening in the White House and the liquor would be flowing. If this guy (or any winning or losing politician) got drunk on election night I'd have a hard time being critical of him. I've gotten drunk for a lot less exciting reasons than this.
Originally Posted By Mr X ***But this is a great example of how Mr.X tries to lie and distort things to make republicans look like fools*** No, I really do think he's totally drunk. You can believe whatever you want to, but this isn't some political agenda talking. He's wasted. It seems very obvious to me.
Originally Posted By Mr X ***But, if he was...so what?*** I would agree except for the fact that looking back he's acted in much the same fashion during key votes and other official functions. Is this really the sort of person who belongs 3rd place from the top if something horrible happens? That's sort of my main point...I never really thought it through so seriously but this time the guy is REALLY drunk, and as I say looking back it's not the first time (and not during celebrations either)...wouldn't you expect the next Speaker elect to be ready and coherent for his big speech on the big election night? Seems pretty horribly irresponsible to me, to say the least. What would you say if the President behaved that way?
Originally Posted By wahooskipper Kennedy was drunk on a regular basis...and he was at the top. We didn't seem to have any problem with a President who couldn't keep his hands of his interns. Tip O'Neill was about as Irish as they come. Ted Kennedy slurred his way through a Washington career. It sounds like you have more of a Republican concern than an alcohol concern.
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Originally Posted By wahooskipper My point is...what is your point? Read books on any of the people I mentioned. You think in 200 plus years we haven't had alcoholics in the White House? Even if the guy was drunk it was at the end of the election night. I've been known to get drunk on Friday night after a bad day at work. That doesn't mean I AM a drunk. I understand your frustration considering the complete turn of events last night...but in this instance I think you are misplacing your anger.
Originally Posted By Mr X ***I understand your frustration considering the complete turn of events last night*** You couldn't be more wrong on this count, bro. I'm completely zen on the whole thing. It went down just as I expected (and as the pollsters predicted), my only disappointment is that the Republicans DIDN'T take the Senate, because if it's going to shift THIS far I want it to shift entirely so the responsibility shifts entirely (the way this precarious balance works out, if I'm correct, is that the House can do whatever it wants and blame any result on the "Democrat Senate and White House", which doesn't bode well for the President.). But I digress. No, I'm not upset about the result. But this guy is going to be in power, and he acts like a drunken retard. That worries me. Sorry you think that sort of thing is okay, it's not okay with me (and whatever I might read in books, I didn't live those administrations, I'm living this one and I expect professionalism from MY representatives regardless of party).
Originally Posted By wahooskipper Professionalism from your representatives? Where have you been for the past 20 years? Yes, I admit that I do not have a problem with a politician on either side of the aisle celebration too much (either in victory or in defeat) on election night. Now, if one of them shows up to a floor vote in a drunken stupor then I'm going to have a problem with that.
Originally Posted By Mr X ***Now, if one of them shows up to a floor vote in a drunken stupor then I'm going to have a problem with that*** <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7nr83lpjB_s" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v...83lpjB_s</a> Drunken stupor, not quite. But listen to the slurred speech here and compare to the topic at hand... Sorry, but this guy scares me.
Originally Posted By barboy2 Hey, wasn't Pres. Grant a HUGE, HUGE drunk? Why yes he was. And aside from a scandal or two who cares that he was a flaming alcoholic.
Originally Posted By mele I dunno, X. It seems like the time to be celebrating. Dude is also old and most likely exhausted. Unless he's wasted all of the time at work, or driving drunk or his world is falling apart, don't think we can judge him on this.
Originally Posted By SuperDry I don't see anything particularly drunken about his behavior, especially at 3:20. Watching it from the beginning, I do see what you're talking about regarding the slurred speech. It does sound consistent with someone that's been drinking. But it can also be consistent with someone under extreme fatigue. I know from a personal experience that I sounded like that once, and the person I was with could have sworn that it was due to alcohol, except that that person had actually been with me continuously for the past several hours and knew that I hadn't had a drop. Instead, it was just jetlag-enhanced fatigue, but it was a very strange feeling not being able to speak properly. Fatigue also can cause people to become more outwardly emotional than normal. And, I would expect that by late at night after Election Day, a politician and party leader is probably going on very little sleep for the past few days. I have no idea if he was drunk or not. But I don't see anything that's not easily explained by fatigue.
