Originally Posted By mawnck I must admit, some of this does sound promising to this curmudgeonly old grump. Of course, it's supposed to. Link includes a **visually** impressive clip from "Frozen". <a target="blank" rel="nofollow" href="http://blogs.indiewire.com/animationscoop/d23-touts-disney-dna">http://blogs.indiewire.com/ani...sney-dna</a>
Originally Posted By FerretAfros I agree that the Frozen clip is pretty to look at, but the visual style and dialogue just seem to be exact copies of Tangled. Normally, I don't mind the use of some modern phrases in fairy tales, but for this clip, I'm going to side with the Witches and say that it takes me completely out of the movie; I think that Ana's voice sounding so similar to Tink's voice is also a factor in that. Plus that stupid snowman is still around. I want to look forward to Frozen, but I still haven't seen a compelling reason The other films sound nice, but I don't think there's much new information there. The one with the animals doesn't sound too promising to me, since the author kept referencing its similarities to Robin Hood, which is one of the more forgettable features Disney's done. There's some interesting stuff coming up, but I'm just having trouble getting excited about any of it
Originally Posted By leemac <<The one with the animals doesn't sound too promising to me, since the author kept referencing its similarities to Robin Hood, which is one of the more forgettable features Disney's done.>> Zootopia! Sounds awful to me - I can't believe anyone would seriously rate Robin Hood as a favorite - even Lasseter. It also seemed odd that it is based on a very similar storyline to The Good Dinosaur - the "what would happen if X hadn't happened...." I've seen parts of both The Good Dinosaur and Inside Out recently and they have partially restored my faith in Pixar's creativity. I'm a little worried about Pixar defaulting to the DWA-type voice talent but hopefully it will work out okay. I love Amy Poehler so happy with that one - Mindy Karling? Not so much.
Originally Posted By leemac I also can't believe that the presentation overran to three hours. I'm not sure I could have sat there for that amount of time. It sounds like a lot of disgruntled folks that missed other presentations due to the overrun.
Originally Posted By dagobert I can't wait for The Good Dinosaur and Inside Out. Finally two original Pixar movies. What happened with the Dia De Los Muertos movie?
Originally Posted By dagobert And Big Hero 6 sounds also promising. In my opinion it's a good idea to combine Marvel and Disney in an animated movie.
Originally Posted By leemac <<What happened with the Dia De Los Muertos movie?>> No release date - likely to be 2016.
Originally Posted By mawnck >>I can't believe anyone would seriously rate Robin Hood as a favorite - even Lasseter.<< This. But a heckuva lot of people do, including some who ought to know better. I guess it's a question of timing, it being by far the biggest Disney movie of the early 1970s. If you were a dumb kid at the time, you still might have a big soft spot for it. (Although this dumb kid grew the heck out of it.) I also get the impression that there are a lot of people in the nuts-and-bolts animation end of the biz who can't see the Sherwood Forest for the trees ... watching these movies going "Ooh, Frank and Ollie are such AWESOME animators!" and failing to notice that there's no plot, no pacing, no interesting characters, and almost everyone in this allegedly English forest sounds like they're from Hooterville. Regardless of what their inspirational sources are, I think Disney would be hard-pressed to make a movie as big a mess as Robin Hood these days. Right? Uh ... right?
Originally Posted By ecdc >>If you were a dumb kid at the time, you still might have a big soft spot for it.<< That's me. Growing up with something can make you awful sentimental, but even I can objectively acknowledge that it's just not a good film.
Originally Posted By leemac <<failing to notice that there's no plot, no pacing, no interesting characters, and almost everyone in this allegedly English forest sounds like they're from Hooterville.>> You forgot some of the worst animated movie songs in history - truly awful. I can't watch it at all. I'd even put it below Home on the Range - it is that dull, lazy and boring.
Originally Posted By mawnck >>You forgot some of the worst animated movie songs in history - truly awful.<< Roger Miller fan here, so I don't necessarily agree with you in that department. The most painful song - by far - is The Phony King of England, and it turns out that it's just a slight rewrite of an R-rated folk song, so it gets points for that. (I won't link directly to it because Community Standards, but do a search for "now the minstrels sing of an English king" - in quotes - if you're interested.)
Originally Posted By FerretAfros >>Regardless of what their inspirational sources are, I think Disney would be hard-pressed to make a movie as big a mess as Robin Hood these days. Right? Uh ... right?<< Please, don't temp them! They will seemingly take use up on all the wrong challenges. I wouldn't put this one past them >>You forgot some of the worst animated movie songs in history - truly awful.<< You don't like Oo De Lally? Well, other than that one, I really can't say that any of the songs were memorable in any way. At least they managed to work USC's fight song into the score, so it gets a couple bonus points there! >>I'd even put it below Home on the Range - it is that dull, lazy and boring.<< I actually just watched HOTR (voluntarily!) this morning. I still contend that while it certainly has its issues, it had the potential to be a pretty good movie. You could go through and rewrite all the dialogue (while keeping the music, scenes, and pacing the same), cut out all the fart/burp jokes, and you'd end up with a pretty good movie. The basic framework is pretty well done, but they just aimed for the lowest common denominator too many times
Originally Posted By DDMAN26 Yep I have rose colored nostalgia when it comes to Robin Hood. I'm pretty sure it's the first animated film I saw. Very excited about Good Dinosaur and especially Inside Out. The latter I'm getting a cross between the Reason and Emotion short with Cranium Command
Originally Posted By TheRedhead Robin Hood was the first movie I saw on my new VCR. Wore the darn tape out. I get that it is seriously flawed, but I love the Roger Miller songs and Peter Ustinov is brilliant. And like Sword in the Stone (another meandering mess) I think it's a nice movie to catch in snippets, as opposed to beginning to end. With that said, I watched Chicken Little last night. My kids also watched Bolt a few weeks ago and I couldn't help but watch. Two movies far far far worse than Robin Hood. And I promise that's me looking objectively.
Originally Posted By FerretAfros I'll agree with you that Chicken Little is complete garbage, but I really like Bolt. No, it's not perfect, but I think it's one of Disney's best efforts in the last ~10 years
Originally Posted By mawnck >>I still contend that while it certainly has its issues, it had the potential to be a pretty good movie.<< Maybe if you cut everything before the yodel song. And everything after the yodel song. +1 on Bolt being way better than Robin Hood. I do not rise to defend Chicken Little.
Originally Posted By skinnerbox <<I've seen parts of both The Good Dinosaur and Inside Out recently and they have partially restored my faith in Pixar's creativity.>> Peterson and Docter, kids. Along with Unkrich, they are Pixar's Golden Trifecta. Lee's words are quite encouraging. 8^)
Originally Posted By skinnerbox <<No release date - likely to be 2016.>> OK, I'm confused. Finding Dory and Inside Out are both being released in 2015. Summer and Fall releases, then?
Originally Posted By skinnerbox <<failing to notice that there's no plot, no pacing, no interesting characters, and almost everyone in this allegedly English forest sounds like they're from Hooterville.>> <<You forgot some of the worst animated movie songs in history - truly awful.>> Not to mention the most obvious, egregious CONTINUITY ERRORS in the history of animated cinema. Yikes! Unbelievably b-a-d! =8^0 <a target="blank" rel="nofollow" href="http://www.moviemistakes.com/film1077?viewall=yes">http://www.moviemistakes.com/f...wall=yes</a>
