Originally Posted By Beaumandy By Jennifer Harper THE WASHINGTON TIMES November 24, 2005 Negative press coverage of the war in Iraq in recent weeks has emphasized rising pessimism among the American public about the conflict. But a new survey found that 56 percent of the public thinks that efforts to establish a stable democracy in the country will succeed. The survey by the Pew Research Center for the People & the Press -- which also plumbed opinions of journalists, university presidents and others in academe, diplomats, government officials, religious leaders, members of the military, scientists and international security specialists -- revealed a marked disconnect between the perceptions of the general public and many of the so-called opinion leaders. When asked whether they thought democracy would succeed in Iraq, only 33 percent of the journalists agreed that it had a chance. The number was even worse in academe -- 27 percent of respondents thought the effort would succeed. Among the military, however, the number stood at 64 percent. <a href="http://www.washtimes.com/national/2...21037-1013r.htm" target="_blank">http://www.washtimes.com/natio nal/2...21037-1013r.htm</a> __________________ I could have saved them the trouble. I knew this. There is no big swell of sentiment against our military action in Iraq. It's all moonbat/press wishful thinking.
Originally Posted By DDMAN26 I don't know Beau, the Washington Times? Come on that's like watching Fox News or listening to Hannity or Rush. You know they're not legitmate news sources like CNN, ABC, NBC, CBS, Air America, the New York Times, Washington Post, San Fransisco Chronicle and just about every other newspaper in this country.
Originally Posted By Beaumandy The interesting part of this study is that the media is much further to the left regarding the war than the general public. It explains why the coverage is so negative and that what you read everyday in the paper or see on the news is not what most people agree with or the reality of the situation. Moonbats say stuff like I just said all the time, except on the other side. In my defense I say all you need to do is talk to the soldiers on the ground and see what they say for confirmation that I am right.
Originally Posted By Beaumandy Since polls are always brought up by the libs saying america hates Bush, here is an interesting one... 70% Say Dem Cut-And-Run Strategy Hurts Morale A stunning new poll shows that the Democrats are losing the American public, in a very big way: Sympathetic Vibrations. (Hat tip: Balloon Juice.) Democrats fumed last week at Vice President Cheney’s suggestion that criticism of the administration’s war policies was itself becoming a hindrance to the war effort. But a new poll indicates most Americans are sympathetic to Cheney’s point. Seventy percent of people surveyed said that criticism of the war by Democratic senators hurts troop morale — with 44 percent saying morale is hurt “a lot,†according to a poll taken by RT Strategies. Even self-identified Democrats agree: 55 percent believe criticism hurts morale, while 21 percent say it helps morale. The results surely will rankle many Democrats, who argue that it is patriotic and supportive of the troops to call attention to what they believe are deep flaws in President Bush’s Iraq strategy. But the survey itself cannot be dismissed as a partisan attack. The RTs in RT Strategies are Thomas Riehle, a Democrat, and Lance Tarrance, a veteran GOP pollster. Their poll also indicates many Americans are skeptical of Democratic complaints about the war. Just three of 10 adults accept that Democrats are leveling criticism because they believe this will help U.S. efforts in Iraq. A majority believes the motive is really to “gain a partisan political advantage.â€
Originally Posted By TomSawyer >>(Hat tip: Balloon Juice.)<< What the --? Is this a random REM lyric or something?
Originally Posted By SuperDry <<< Since polls are always brought up by the libs saying america hates Bush >>> The only poll I saw about hating Bush showed that 6% of the public does so. Since 49% of the public voted for Kerry last year, I'd say that a small minority of "libs" hate bush.
Originally Posted By SuperDry <<< I don't know Beau, the Washington Times? Come on that's like watching Fox News or listening to Hannity or Rush. You know they're not legitmate news sources like CNN, ABC, NBC, CBS, Air America, the New York Times, Washington Post, San Fransisco Chronicle and just about every other newspaper in this country. >>> Why listen to moonbats when you can listen to the Moonies?
Originally Posted By ElKay That poll's plain loony (or should I say moonie), just exactly why would the military be a better judge of the chances of a country developing a democratic system? How many poli-sci majors are there in the military? Journalists and folks who get paid to think have more experience in this sort of thing than the military. Look, If I want to overthrow a government, I'd go and seek advice from a soldier, not a journalist or professor. If I want to know how to build a democracy I'd ask people who study governments all over the world, not a soldier. A better gauge is the number 39. That's the number of Americans who believe Bush was right to invade Iraq.
Originally Posted By DouglasDubh <That poll's plain loony (or should I say moonie), just exactly why would the military be a better judge of the chances of a country developing a democratic system?> Maybe because they're actually over there, talking to the Iraqi people and gauging how they are reacting to their new freedoms and prosperity.
Originally Posted By Moderation I'm afraid that we need to see a source on that poll. With some rather strange language contained in the article, I don't think you have met a reasonable level of documentation.
Originally Posted By Kar2oonMan The only source I can find for Beaumandy's poll is a weblog -- I suspect that's where he got it. (no link because it has a lot of profanity) Who took this poll? What's the margin of error? Such a "stunning new poll" ought to be easier to find than this.
Originally Posted By TomSawyer The original source for the poll was a Washington Post article. <a href="http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/11/26/AR2005112600745_pf.html" target="_blank">http://www.washingtonpost.com/ wp-dyn/content/article/2005/11/26/AR2005112600745_pf.html</a> The poll was conducted by RT Strategies, founded by a Democrat named Thomas Riehle and a Republican named Lance Tarrance. You can see a .pdf of the poll press release at <a href="http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/politics/documents/RT_Topline_2005-11-20_Final_PtP.pdf" target="_blank">http://www.washingtonpost.com/ wp-srv/politics/documents/RT_Topline_2005-11-20_Final_PtP.pdf</a>
Originally Posted By Moderation Well, you may count me in the 30% who don't think it effects troop morale. Most troops I know are too busy to even notice, and I'm doubtful most marines I know read.
