Originally Posted By Dr Hans Reinhardt Did anyone catch the embarrassing clips of Jan Brewer's mind boggling performance during last night's debate for the State of Arizona Governor's office? Watch the videos: <a href="http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/09/02/jan-brewer-starts-badly-f_n_703559.html" target="_blank">http://www.huffingtonpost.com/...559.html</a> It was so bad that she announced today that she will not appear in any more debates stating, "I don't believe that things come out in proper context in an adversarial atmosphere." Um, okay Jan.
Originally Posted By Mr X What "adversarial atmosphere" are we talking about there? She had the freaking floor, nobody was interrupting her. What a loser. How do people elect folks like this!!!!????
Originally Posted By hopemax I am glad I don't live there anymore. I will forgive her for the long pause. Public speaking is not my thing, and while it is usually helpful to be a good one as Gov, ideas count more. BUT!!! Won't step back from "beheadings in the desert!" My head explodes.
Originally Posted By Mr X Her opponent should run that clip of her fleeing from the media over and over and over...
Originally Posted By Donny I don't care if she comes in drunk just help get Illegals out of Arizona and she will have my vote.
Originally Posted By skinnerbox <<I don't care if she comes in drunk just help get Illegals out of Arizona and she will have my vote.>> If anyone on the left ever made the same "I don't care if [the elected official] comes in drunk" statement about a politician they supported, you'd be jumping all over them like green on grass. And you're making undocumented workers the repository for all that ails Arizona. Your state has far worse problems than undocumented workers. Of course, your blessed Republican leaders don't have clue one about how to fix any of them, so... they go after low hanging fruit like immigration just to gin up the base to turn out and vote. It's truly sad when seemingly intelligent individuals simply refuse to engage their brains and view the facts from all sides of the issue.
Originally Posted By leobloom >> I don't care if she comes in drunk just help get Illegals out of Arizona and she will have my vote. << Does her inability to admit when she's wrong impress you?
Originally Posted By CuriouserConstance Watching videos like that make me so darn uncomfortable I can barely stand watching them.
Originally Posted By Donny Funny I think I am being as straight as I can be. SB1070 is one of the greatest AZ bills and I hope she continues to fight for taxpayers and not the tax burdens..
Originally Posted By ecdc So since you don't care if she shows up drunk as long as she gets rid of the "illegals," I take it that means we can count on your support for President Obama since his administration has deported more people than the Bush administration?
Originally Posted By Donny I am not so narrow minded to think everything President Obama is bad but I am not happy with the Obama administration saying that SB1070 was un-American when in fact hiring non-Americans ,paying them an unlivable wage, and then telling Arizona that even though you are being sucked of your civil resources by these criminals you can't defend yourself..
Originally Posted By skinnerbox Let's try approaching this from another direction. If the Mexican government launched missiles against Arizona, Jan Brewer would NOT have the legal authority to send the AZ National Guard into Mexico to stop it. Defending the country from forces outside the US, even just one part of the country such as a single state, is the Federal government's responsibility and only the Federal government's. States do not have the legal authority to jump into militaristic action on their own. SB1070 is just as unconstitutional as military action against a neighboring country by an individual state. The Federal government is responsible for the border. If Arizona citizens don't agree with the manner in which the Federal government is guarding the border, then they need to either man up and just accept it, or vote for representatives at the national level who will do as they wish. But Arizona lawmakers and citizens do not have the legal authority to usurp this responsibility from the Federal government by taking matters into their own hands. SB1070 violates the US Constitution. Period. If this immigration thing is SO BAD and SO EVIL that you cannot stand it anymore... try moving to a different state. If life in AZ is so terrible because of these "criminals," I don't understand why you're still there. And if moving doesn't appeal to you... then instead of wasting your time on a freakin Disney fan site, try spending some of it organizing like-minded individuals such as yourself into a coalition of secessionists to help Arizona be free of the tyranny and oppression of the Federal government which forces its citizens to live in such dire conditions. I say, go for secession. Fine by me if Arizona becomes its own country. I don't particularly find much value there anymore, now that the wingnuts have taken over the government and McCain has completely lost his mind. I have no intention of ever going back, so go ahead and cut yourself free. We can always make Puerto Rico the 50th state. They've been wanting statehood forever. I say it's high time we give it to them. They'll be more appreciative of their statehood, anyway. Ditch Arizona for Puerto Rico. I like it!
Originally Posted By CuriouserConstance I love her line, "I worked so hard, there was nothing more I could do." lol That's a strange statement. Like you're trying to explain that even though things are terrible, I did my best.
Originally Posted By SingleParkPassholder "Funny I think I am being as straight as I can be. SB1070 is one of the greatest AZ bills and I hope she continues to fight for taxpayers and not the tax burdens.." Figures you'd like it. It's an unconstitutional piece of crap.
Originally Posted By SingleParkPassholder "I am not so narrow minded to think everything President Obama is bad..." Yes, you are.
Originally Posted By mawnck >>I say, go for secession. Fine by me if Arizona becomes its own country.<< Aw man ... that means I'll have to go around it to get to New Mexico. Up next, Arizona governor unilaterally declares war on Taco Bell, claiming it is a terrorist organization operated by the Mexican Muslim Mafia (3M). Brewer's popularity surges with her new campaign slogan "drop the chalupa."
