Originally Posted By rydisney50GA I just got back from seeing On Stranger Tides and man it really wasn't that great, Besides Jack Sparrow everything else was B-O-R-I-N-G! Black beard was as interesting as my left shoe, Penélope Cruz was a bad pirate, and the story was weak. Over all it wasn't as bad as Indy 4 but close, It does not hold anything to its 3 GREAT predecessors.
Originally Posted By rydisney50GA I just got back from seeing On Stranger Tides and man it really wasn't that great, Besides Jack Sparrow everything else was B-O-R-I-N-G! Black beard was as interesting as my left shoe, Penélope Cruz was a bad pirate, and the story was weak. Over all it wasn't as bad as Indy 4 but close, It does not hold anything to its 3 GREAT predecessors.
Originally Posted By sjhym333 Thats almost always the case with sequels. Much of the fun of movies is the unknown about the characters.
Originally Posted By RoadTrip The film gets bad reviews at rottentomatoes.com from both critics AND audience. Bad reviews from critics don't surprise me, but bad ratings from audience members is petty unusual for ANY Disney film. Think I'll wait to see this one until it's on DVD.
Originally Posted By DlandDug Box office numbers look good so far. Third highest worldwide opening weekend-- of all time. Highest foreign opening weekend-- of all time. It has, in just two weeks, already cracked the top 50 all time box office.
Originally Posted By HokieSkipper <<Box office numbers look good so far.>> True, but how many people came out of the movie feeling as the OP? The stateside receipts are shrinking, and if people are coming out feeling blah about the movie, I don't see that drop improving.
Originally Posted By wingednike I liked it and i'm not a huge Pirates fan. I thought 2 and 3 got too serious; it didn't have any re-watch value for me. This new one I would watch again
Originally Posted By andyll My wife and I saw it today and we both loved it. We might see it again in the theater. I was so in the mood for pirates that I watched 1-3 on blu-ray when I got home. You know what... 2 and 3 kinda sucked. I felt Jack was a little more like he was in the 1st movie. Jack, Will and Elizibeth worked real well in the 1st movie but I felt it had become the Will and Elizibeth story in the 2nd two with Jack really not having a purpose. I find it kinda of funny that people are complaining about 'unexplained' issues in the 4th... the 1st three where filled with them. I wouldn't mind if they do some more like the 4th.
Originally Posted By basil fan >>I find it kinda of funny that people are complaining about 'unexplained' issues in the 4th... the 1st three where filled with them. You got that right. Disney even had to issue a 'cheat sheet' explaining all the fans' questions about #3. I'd say this one rises above 2 & 3 easily. Many of the criticisms I'm reading don't seem to make any sense. "Too confusing?" That's a POTC staple. Depp "going through the motions?" He seemed like the same old Jack to me. Sounds to me like viewers are either tired of the whole franchise, Jack included, or else are so in love with Will and Elizabeth that nothing else will satisfy them. Of course, that's only how it sounds to *me*. Disney Trivia <a href="http://www.whatsitsgalore.com/disney/dquiz.html" target="_blank">http://www.whatsitsgalore.com/...uiz.html</a>
Originally Posted By ecdc I want to believe that the bad reviews of most of the sequels/establishment franchises spell the beginning of the end for lazy Hollywood and open the door to original stories. I want to believe it, but the box office keeps saying people don't mind spending their hard-earned dollars on mediocre fare. And hey, if someone likes a movie, more power to 'em. But the audience response says the majority don't, but they keep going back anyway.
Originally Posted By Jim in Merced CA "You can't top pigs with pigs" -- Walt Disney (around 1935 or so -- responding to movie theatre owners who wanted him to create sequels to his very popular short cartoon 'Three Little Pigs.'
Originally Posted By andyll It's kind of funny that movies are the one entertainment type where sequels of a successful original are a bad thing. Do you think Sir Arthur Conan Doyle was told to do something original when he kept using the same characters and 'format/style' of his plots? Successful TV series are not really original week after week. Established musicians tend to get flamed by their fanbase if they go outside their genre and be original. But movies... a sequel takes a hit even before it's reviewed. Here's an example of a known 'critic' reviewing OST. BY ROGER EBERT / May 18, 2011 Before seeing "Pirates of the Caribbean: On Stranger Tides," I had already reached my capacity for "Pirates of the Caribbean" movies... <a href="http://rogerebert.suntimes.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20110518/REVIEWS/110519968" target="_blank">http://rogerebert.suntimes.com...10519968</a> How good of review are you going to get out him with that opening? In fact... he really doesn't say what he doesn't like about the movie other then it's another priate's movie. Makes reading reviews pointless.
Originally Posted By Ursula I TOLD you I didn't like Penelope Cruz. Will NO one listen to me around here?
Originally Posted By DlandDug Huh? What did you say? I was distracted by that bewitching Penelope Cruz...!
Originally Posted By davewasbaloo MMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm, Penelope Cruz......mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
Originally Posted By cheesybaby <<"You can't top pigs with pigs" -- Walt Disney>> "But you CAN top Mickey shorts with Mickey shorts, and Donald shorts with Donald shorts, and Goofy shorts with Goofy shorts, and..." -- Walt Disney
Originally Posted By ecdc >>Successful TV series are not really original week after week.<< Depends on the TV series. Sitcoms, no they are not original. They're not original on day one, because what we crave from sitcoms is familiarity. We like seeing people in similar situations to us laugh and have a good time. Relationships are hard, work sucks, but we have family and friends who make life good - universal themes. Dramas don't always stay the same, and the best ones definitely don't. Film is different. We tend to want more originality. Sure, that can be defined many different ways, and we all want the same basic story structure when all is said and done. There's a reason early German post-modern cinema isn't playing on 4000 screens. And originality can exist in sequels. I've got no beef with sequels if they're done well (see The Dark Knight and The Godfather Part II). And just like even the best sitcoms wear out their welcome after descending into a dance of "what zany antics will our characters get into this week" coupled with "tonight, on a very special episode..." so do films peddling the same characters in the same stories in a different locale.
Originally Posted By DlandDug >>Yeah, you'd have to look at her. You can't make out a word she says.<< She was talking...?
Originally Posted By vbdad55 funny a lot of the most critical people haven't seen it yet. RT - if you're looking for a fun film- more priates themed than the Will-Elizabeth love fest of the last 2- see On Stranger Tides. We had a group of 12 go and not one single person didn;t at least like it. FOr myselfit is the best one since 1. 3 really did little for me and did cause me some thought before paying top see 4. Glad I did. The mermaid scene and story alone worth it to me. It's moree about Jack ( wasn't the firstone also ?) - and pirate legends and lore. Very cool fo rme and I'd actually pay to see it again in the theatre ( although I won't pay for 3D)- we all know some critics write their reviews without ever seeing the actual movie- or all of it. SOme of them seenothing as worthy unless there is someone dying - and huge emotional trauma or social issues involved. I go to the theatre for escapism most of the time unless there is something of historical nature that has to be seen. Will this win any acting or storyline academy awards- nope ( that is a whole other argument)- but to me if you're looking for 2 hours of fantasy/fun this was well worth it and again a better efforrt than 3 for sure and likely 2. one complaint- Blackbeard could have been meaner for me... just my opinion
