Originally Posted By jonvn Perhaps I was wrong. Maybe there is a god: <a href="http://www.cnn.com/2006/US/09/22/farrakhan.ill.ap/index.html" target="_blank">http://www.cnn.com/2006/US/09/ 22/farrakhan.ill.ap/index.html</a>
Originally Posted By DlandJB It will be interesting conversation between God and Lewis when they get around to talking about the assasination of Malcom X.
Originally Posted By DAR you/your Post 2, it's kind of ironic but I get the feeling Mr. Farakhan and David Duke maybe spending sometime together in the afterlife.
Originally Posted By DlandJB It wouldn't surpise me. Of course I do believe that we all have a shot at redemption between our first breath and our last.
Originally Posted By SuperDry <<< Perhaps I was wrong. Maybe there is a god: >>> Wow - the notion that 73-year old man may be terminally ill is a sign to you that "there is a god." I'll tell you what, I do think that God exists, and to borrow an expression, mine is much better than yours.
Originally Posted By DouglasDubh <I do think that God exists, and to borrow an expression, mine is much better than yours.> I don't think he has one. Pity.
Originally Posted By friendofdd I'm not certain I understand his theology, but I think he is supposed to be beamed up to the mother ship.
Originally Posted By friendofdd I was speaking of Farrakhan. I don't know if Jon has connections with the mother ship.
Originally Posted By DouglasDubh <I thought the topic was about Farrakhan, not jon.> Or is it about what jon thinks of Farrakhan?
Originally Posted By jonvn "the notion that 73-year old man may be terminally ill is a sign to you that "there is a god." " He's not just a 73 year old man, which is a nice way of ignoring nearly everything about him. He's a 73 year old man who has spent his life sewing hatred. An individual who unapologetically called Judaism a "gutter religion," abd the Pope the "anti-christ." He didn't have bad things to say about all people, though, as he once called Hitler "great." But I do think it's nice how this was turned into a personal attack on me, eh?
Originally Posted By SingleParkPassholder "He's a 73 year old man who has spent his life sewing hatred." Was he sewing a quilt? That actually would be fairly apt, a quilt of hatred. I imagine he was adept at sowing hatred too. Just funnin' with ya.
Originally Posted By YourPalEd <<<Of course I do believe that we all have a shot at redemption between our first breath and our last.>>> Redemption? What are you talking about? Life is a reward from god. Do with it what you want. Nothing you do is actually great or bad. You've been given the gift, and will soon be gone as a human being, whether you like it or not. The ability to prolong life in human form is quite finite, you gain or lose at the most 10 years or so, maybe 100. A sadness is achieved if you don't enjoy the gift of life, but even if you can't enjoy your life, my personal belief is that God will accept that. God accepts all behavior as some form of valid communication. There is nothing to redeem. Your actions should be a celebration of exploration, and not a freezing of possibilities. Possibilities will disappear soon enough. As soon as you talk about redemption you have assumed you have done something bad, when actually you have just been a human being who is supposed to err.
Originally Posted By cmpaley >>Post 2, it's kind of ironic but I get the feeling Mr. Farakhan and David Duke maybe spending sometime together in the afterlife.<< Talk about irony. The perfect hell (or purgatory).
Originally Posted By fkurucz >>There is nothing to redeem.<< Sorry Ed, but there is good and evil. It is the evil in all of us that needs to be redeemed. >>God accepts all behavior as some form of valid communication.<< So what was Hitler trying to communicate? That he hated his daddy?
Originally Posted By YourPalEd <<<So what was Hitler trying to communicate? That he hated his daddy?>>> Very funny. Obviously, it was his mother he hated.
Originally Posted By YourPalEd <<<Sorry Ed, but there is good and evil. It is the evil in all of us that needs to be redeemed.>>> Nope. People make mistakes, but people do bad things cause they think they are supposed to do those things. The worst multiple offenders you see in our jails waiting on death row, were bred by the ills of our society. Criminals accounts of their law breaking actions, always is that they are the victim, and were forced to do what they did. He asked for it. She asked for it. You can pretend other people are not around you, but they are everywhere, and they are getting a little desperate, cause the people who need money and jobs, do not have them. While the people, who do not need jobs, keep giving themselves pay raises, or multiple job titles, or both. When i see ford firing all those people, i realize a lot of those jobs are management jobs. Those can't be replaced anymore, not by those people. Phew, just thinking about looking for a job, tires me out.
