Originally Posted By Bob Benchley ..... are there any threads here lately that aren't closed to new posts?
Originally Posted By Sara Tonin ..... are there any threads here lately that aren't closed to new posts? Only if you learn to play outside of the insane, scary clown, dark and gloomy playground that is WE
Originally Posted By Dabob2 Yeah, a couple I understood why, but the Obama's Broken Promise one was shut down for no really good reason, IMO. vbdad had just put the hammer down, but in a polite and intelligent way... oh well. They do seem to all have one thing in common, though.
Originally Posted By Bob Benchley While it might appear I'm trying to be a smart aleck, I'm not. I WAS going for a little levity, because this section sure could use some.
Originally Posted By vbdad55 <Yeah, a couple I understood why, but the Obama's Broken Promise one was shut down for no really good reason, IMO. vbdad had just put the hammer down, but in a polite and intelligent way... oh well. They do seem to all have one thing in common, though.< lol - put the hammer down -- but thank you for the fact I did it professionally. It is what I do - I know that part of the story better than I wish I did - sorry to say. But the subjective part- on who supports what - since no group - Dem - GOP- Independents - men - women or any other way you want to slice people has really done anything to effect change to it - I would not project to who would do what -- didn't realize the thread got closed - sorry. surely wasn't my intent Some people here are experts in certain things and I respect that - offshoring is one thing I can speak to - again one day I hope that is not my expertise.
Originally Posted By dshyates So VB, your job has been to send our jobs overseas? I hate that you have been so successful.
Originally Posted By vbdad55 Trust me - there are days it is mentally very tough. Part of my job though is also to justify jobs that HAVE to stay here - and I work very hard on that end. Another part is to justify total number of jobs period anywhere...I do what I can - but is your asking me if I am involved in the part of the business that identifies low cost providers - that answer is yes. quite frankly part of the job now is to move jobs from where they were off shored years ago- to a new lower cost location - so they are no in conutry jobs being affected -- and I keep saying to those who will listen, the jobs that have left are never - ever coming back unless there is a major shift in employment laws and penalties- unfortunately it would almost require protectionalism in order to accomplish that - and that also have serious flaws. Not justifying anything but I can tell you - no major corp in any industry has any incentive ( other than patriotism - which doesn't help make the bottom line and since corp's are really nit people doesn't exist) - to keep the jobs here once the industry flow has started. If for instance IBM , DELL , HP etc have their call centers in places where $600 / month gets you a rock solid employee - how does COMPAQ pay an employee here a living wage of say even something like $32K a year when that $32K becomes $50K with health benefits and cost of support and building per employee ? The answer is they can't --- It sucks. Pick any industry - it doesn't matter. It's the cost of wages driven by the environmental cost of living that drives the overhead.... people making $12K a year in many locations can live very confortably compared to the general populave- unfortunately that won't cut it here anywhere. Also one off shoring people seem to overlook is to Canada. Do you know how many jobs have headed that way over the past 20 years. First you had the exchange rate of dollar to dollar -- then in Quebec there were for lack of better term - rebates - of up to 15% of an employees salary for a given period of time to make sure unemployment there was kept to a minimum. All the while hardly noticed by consumers because they sound just like us. Except for the stray prOcess instead of pr -ah -cess etc.- one hardly knows, but those jobs are still gone - no different than if they left anywhere. When jobs moved there no one was offered a transfer there.
Originally Posted By DouglasDubh <Also one off shoring people seem to overlook is to Canada. Do you know how many jobs have headed that way over the past 20 years.> Sure. But in return we've gotten Bill Shatner, Michael J. Fox, and Alan Thicke.
Originally Posted By dshyates "(Reverse that)" Umm, yeah! Rush is my favorite Canadian import. I am the only Deadhead I know who has seen Rush 19 times.
Originally Posted By DouglasDubh Does Rush live in the US, or do they still live in the GWN? I really need to get Hold Your Fire on CD.
Originally Posted By dshyates They believe Alex and Geddy still live in Canada. I think I remember hearing that Niel and his wife moved to the Pacific NW after their daughter died. But I don't know if BC or US.
Originally Posted By SingleParkPassholder I'm not a Rush fan at all, but as it pertains to Peart, in July of '97 his 19 year old daughter died in a car wreck, then ten months later his wife of 22 years died, then he went on a solitary motorcycle ride for some time to get away and mourn. He re-married in September of 2000. <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neil_Peart" target="_blank">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neil_Peart</a>
