Originally Posted By DDMAN26 What do I mean by this? It reflects a lack of civility that has been present in America for the last twenty years. From talk radio mostly dominated by right-wing pundits. To the bloggers on the left and the right who try to demonize those they don't agree with. Or look at the editoral pages of the New York Times. Or sites like Moveon.org who make it their goal to demonize the President. Take a look at the Alito hearings, it also reflects a lack of civility. So to see this carry over is here is not really surprising. P.S. I would hope that we can have a civil(no pun intended) discussion about this.
Originally Posted By Kar2oonMan I agree, but I think the anonimity of a message board amplifies all this ten-fold. There appear to be a small number of posters in WE not at all interested in a discussion but interested merely in provoking.
Originally Posted By TomSawyer >>I agree, but I think the anonimity of a message board amplifies all this ten-fold. There appear to be a small number of posters in WE not at all interested in a discussion but interested merely in provoking.<< Aw, stuff it popcorn muncher. j/k You're right. I think the anonymity gives people a chance to live out Mitty-esque fantasy lives.
Originally Posted By DDMAN26 I'm going to lunch now, so please try not to get this topic shut down. Thanks.
Originally Posted By patrickegan I don’t only think it’s the internet the left has become more intolerant. How many times did you have to fish your Kerry for pres sign out of the trash? Did it get to the point that you had to make your own? Have you had move on stickers put over your Kerry 04 sticker? Has your truck with Kerry stickers been keyed while others around it haven’t? Have people ridden by your work place and yelled obscenities about Kerry? I regardless of affiliation would not deface the property of others. Comrade Trollinsky
Originally Posted By patrickegan <<I'm going to lunch now, so please try not to get this topic shut down. Thanks.>> I have to leave too, so what he said.
Originally Posted By Dabob2 Much may depend on where one lives, Patrick. I have friends who live in Tennessee who had Kerry stickers on their car, which got keyed, had their Kerry yard sign ripped out and covered in dog doo... Bad behavior is bad behavior.
Originally Posted By imadisneygal Yes, it definitely depends on where you live. I have two different friends whose Kerry bumper stickers were scratched off of their cars along with a little paint. Unfortunately bad behavior is not limited to one side or the other.
Originally Posted By alexbook I generally avoid public f2f political discussions, because they just get too angry too quickly. It definitely feels safer on the 'net. The vandalism can be worst in a "purple" area--that's half-red, half-blue. Everybody's convinced that they're an oppressed minority. I used to think living side-by-side with people of different opinions would breed greater tolerance, and for some people it does, but for others...
Originally Posted By cmpaley >>>>I agree, but I think the anonimity of a message board amplifies all this ten-fold. There appear to be a small number of posters in WE not at all interested in a discussion but interested merely in provoking.<< Aw, stuff it popcorn muncher.<< Speaking as the Churro Emperor and Pope, I have to say: ROFLMAO!!!!!!
Originally Posted By Beaumandy <<There appear to be a small number of posters in WE not at all interested in a discussion but interested merely in provoking.<< There is a small group of posters on WE that call a different opinion than their own not discussion, they call it provoking instead. This is so lame and transparent I don't know where to start. As if the only people who provoke on here are me and other conservatives. Last time I checked, a coward on here actually created an entire new LP account called " Joyless Prig " simply to throw attacks my way. In the world of the liberal who is now used to losing when it comes to public opinion, the best way they think they can win is to discredit the opposition who simply points out why a democrat or a liberal is wrong. So what do they do?? They demonize the people who point out that the country is rejecting them. Communists and Nazis used the same tactics. Us Republicans control congress, the White House, most Govenorships, and now we are moving the supreme court to the right. How can this happen if liberals have any influence and all conservatives are bigots? As far as not discussing topics as Tom says.. I ask tough questions for sure, like this one for example. How can people go to a church that embraces homosexuality when the bible that they are packing into that church says homosexuality is sin and is not to be tolerated?? How can these people think that going to church is doing them any good when the very bible they carry says otherwise? My theory? Going to a chuch like this makes liberals feel good. Nothing more nothing less. In other words, it's not about God, it's about what makes Mr. and Mrs. liberal feel good about themsleves... it's about them, not God. This is the same reason liberals like to brag about how they "helped" a homeless guy. It makes them feel good. Average Americans outside of the few pockets of liberalism reject the very things liberals want to cram down our throats. Once we get to vote on this stuff... liberals lose. They are even losing in Canda. So yes, World events is a reflection of society.
Originally Posted By peeaanuut I have a poster here at work that says: "If we stop serving the customer maybe they will stop calling". Im hoping that works here.
Originally Posted By StillThePassHolder Legal definition of 'fighting words' Fighting words doctrine. The First Amendment doctrine that holds that certain utterances are not constitutionally protected as free speech if they are inherently likely to provoke a violent response from the audience. N.A.A.C.P. v. Clairborne Hardware Co., Miss., 458 U.S. 886, 102 S.Ct. 3409, 73 L.Ed.2d 1215 (1982). Words which by their very utterance inflict injury or tend to incite an immediate breach of the peace, having direct tendency to cause acts of violence by the persons to whom, individually, remark is addressed. The test is what persons of common intelligence would understand to be words likely to cause an average addressee to fight. City of Seattle v. Camby, 104 Wash.2d 49, 701 P.2d 499, 500. The "freedom of speech" protected by the Constitution is not absolute at all times and under all circumstances and there are well-defined and narrowly limited classes of speech, the prevention and punishment of which does not raise any constitutional problem, including the lewd and obscene, the profane, the libelous, and the insulting or "fighting words" which by their very utterance inflict injury or tend to incite an immediate breach of the peace. Chaplinsky v. New Hampshire, 315 U.S. 568, 62 S.Ct. 766, 86 L.Ed. 1031. SOURCE: Black's Law Dictionary, Sixth Edition
Originally Posted By DDMAN26 <<As if the only people who provoke on here are me and other conservatives. Last time I checked, a coward on here actually created an entire new LP account called " Joyless Prig " simply to throw attacks my way.>> Now this was part of my point about the lack of civility on WE. It is not just those who fall on the conservative side of things that provoke, we've all been guilty of it. However the rest of the post did evolve into the same broken record that has been playing for the last three years. And unlike others I do like this poster because I just view him as a guy from Oregon with two kids just posting his views.
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Originally Posted By Beaumandy LOL, I know I sound like a broken record regarding liberals. It's just the way I see it DDMAN, and I like to remind them that there is a reason they are losing. How stupid is that?? Tom Sawyer gets it by now. It's just what I do. To paint me as the extremist simply isn't going to work when in real life, their ideas when voted on, get trounced. I'm doing it again.. huh.. It is true that I am a normal guy from Oregon who had two kids, who loves disneyland, who is not even remotely as bitter as I sound on here. In fact, I love my life... ecomomy is good, kids are doing great, my wife is hot, my parents are alive and healthy, I can still play hockey at a decent level and we have a guy in the White House who takes terrorism seriously. On another note.. Tom.... I do hope the Seahawks win this weekend!!!!!
Originally Posted By DDMAN26 <<Tom.... I do hope the Seahawks win this weekend!!!!!>> I can't wish for that. See Mike Holmgren led the Packers back to two Superbowls, with them winning one, the other never happened in my book. But then he left us. It was like a member of the chess club going out with the head cheerleader in school then she realizes that she should have gone with someone from the football team instead. But that being said I can't stand the Panthers, especially Delhomme. Okay rant is over back to the topic.
