Originally Posted By avatarmickey115 Has anybody wondered why Disney hasn't gone the extra step and installed machines to actually make real snow instead of soap suds? Even though they look a lot like snow when they are floating in the air...I think it would really be "magical" if they made real snow. It would take a lot of work because I'm sure they'd have to rip up the ground around all the light fixtures where the "snow" comes out...but it's possible! What do you think? is it not worth it? or would you like to see them do this? Do you think they'll ever do it? Do you think they have already considered this? Am I asking to many questions?
Originally Posted By avatarmickey115 Just to be more detailed, this is obviously for the Winter time Enchanted Lighting Ceremony Watchyamacallit thingy...
Originally Posted By friendofdd >>>Am I asking to many questions?<<< Yes! =o] Real snow could create some difficulties. It would lower the temp. Although that might sell more sweatshirts. If it accumulated at all, it could create walking problems. It would be wetter than the bubbles, making for discomfort for some. I suspect it was considered when the project was on the drawing boards. The special bubbles do not require clean up of any sort.
Originally Posted By RoadTrip You must live in a place that doesn't get snow. Real snow is TERRIBLE... it is to be avoided at all costs!
Originally Posted By x Pirate_Princess x This is Southern California, even on a "cold" night, I doubt it would stick around for very long.
Originally Posted By gadzuux Snow making machines such as what they use on ski slopes are big and noisy. I suppose they could be custom engineered to be a bit smaller, and mufflers of some sort placed on them, but they'd still require one or two people manning each devise, they'd still be large, and still be noisy. And yeah - for a few minutes anyway - it would collect on Main Street and get slushy around people's feet. On the other hand, the machines that make the 'bubble' snow are small and quiet, cheap to operate, and can easily be set to start and stop instantly via remote control. And they leave no mess behind. It's a great effect that's actually a relatively cheap and easy trick for disney. No reason to change it.
Originally Posted By davewasbaloo What I find stranger is how Disneyland Paris uses these machines and yet the park often has real snow ;-)
Originally Posted By avatarmickey115 I really don't think it would be that big of a problem. I'm sure they can engineer something that's quiet, small, and cheap. The snow would melt pretty fast and it wouldnt build up that much at all. I think it's something they should look into further.
Originally Posted By avatarmickey115 They don't close Disneyland when it's raining or if it hails...there wouldn't be enough snow build up to cause a slipping hazard
Originally Posted By MisterTophat There's an unavoidable legal distinction between natural rain and Disney wetting the ground. Disney is aware that water on a pathway is slippery. Putting water on a pathway intentionally despite this knowledge qualifies negligence in the case of a slip and fall claim. Of course they could prop up wet floor signs out for every show, but then the next thread we'd see on sites like these is how the signs deter from the show. Further, think about the volume of complaints to city hall when Disney Real Snow™ gets on the countless expensive cell phones and cameras and renders them into bricks. If I was Disney, I'd take the bubbles too.
Originally Posted By Mickeymouseclub Did anybody ever attend the holiday snow party at Celebration Village in Orlando when Disney still owned it? The fake snow was made to accumulate in the Village Center and it was thick and created an ice skate rink area sorta. The children loved to slip and slide in that...and it was a big mess...
Originally Posted By Goofyernmost OK, I hate to burst your bubble but the air temperature has to be freezing to make snow. It isn't frozen inside the machine and then thrown out. It is a fine mist of water that freezes in the air before it hits the ground. Frozen water is sometimes ice and that is what it would be if it were inside the machine. Solid ice doesn't move very well. So there's the science/weather lesson for the day. Moral...be happy with the fake stuff. The real stuff is cold and wet and nasty withing minutes of it hitting the ground(which must be freezing as will to hold it in snow form}.
Originally Posted By wahooskipper Whew...Goofyernmost saved me some work there. Yes, you need cold to make real snow. Down here in Florida we have cities that try to duplicate snow for holiday events. What you end up with is a big pile of ice. Great for a margarita but not much fun for the kiddies.
Originally Posted By Schmitty Good Vibes Yup, Goofyernmost is right. It has to be below freezing for a snow maker to work. Alternative: Load machines up with ice blocks and spray shaved ice (snow) on everyone. The chunks would have to be pretty big to last more than an instant, so it would be more like magical hail instead of snow. I'm sure it was considered when the idea of making it snow at DL first came up, and you've already read why it wouldn't work so well.
Originally Posted By wonderingalice <------Envisioning "Magical Hail" ... the size of golf balls. LOL
Originally Posted By Lisann22 After living in Chicago and experiencing "blowing snow." I'll enjoy and eat the occasional soapflake thank you very much!
Originally Posted By SuperDry <<< OK, I hate to burst your bubble but the air temperature has to be freezing to make snow. It isn't frozen inside the machine and then thrown out. It is a fine mist of water that freezes in the air before it hits the ground. >>> Close, but not quite. Snowmaking machines don't rely just on mist of water that the ambient air freezes. There's far too much heat that needs to be removed from even chilled water in order to turn it into ice (snow), and there's no way that just ambient air could remove that amount of heat that quickly. The secret to a snow-making machine is that it also uses compressed air. The nozzles spray a mix of compressed air and water mist. As the air expands, the temperature rapidly drops. Anyone that's used a "can of air" to clean their computer keyboard knows what I'm talking about: just spraying gas out the can for a few seconds makes the can get very cold. It's the effect of the expanding gas and not the ambient air that provides most of the "cold" that makes the snow. So, it's possible to make snow with a machine if it's above freezing outside, but if it's much above, it will melt too quickly.
Originally Posted By CuriouserConstance You're not being very sensitive to those of us that are allergic to real snow!
Originally Posted By tashajilek Like RoadTrip said, real snow is aweful!!! I wish i could send the snow we get away forever.
