Originally Posted By mawnck <a href="http://biggovernment.com/2009/10/21/acorn-video-prostitution-scandal-in-philadelphia-pa-part-i/" target="_blank">http://biggovernment.com/2009/...-part-i/</a> Hurry up and click, because they're sure to fix this as soon as they notice it. When the video file was created for upload, the editor left one of his audio tracks accidentally turned off - the one with the ACORN employee on it. But the track with the "pimp" is still turned on. Two separate tracks, proving that the questions and answers don't match up. First example is around 1:20.
Originally Posted By ecdc Yeah those ACORN scumbags, helping the poor and stuff. How dare they! It's not like that Jesus guy said anything about that....
Originally Posted By WilliamK99 Yeah those ACORN scumbags, helping the poor and stuff. How dare they! It's not like that Jesus guy said anything about that....<< Do you have proof he actually said that or just unconfirmed reports? Until i see it as confirmed on Fox News, I am not drinking your Kool Aid...
Originally Posted By DAR They're a greedy and dishonest organization that does nothing whatsoever to help the poor.
Originally Posted By Dabob2 <They're a greedy and dishonest organization that does nothing whatsoever to help the poor.> Actually, they've done a lot to help the poor, for many years. You should check into things before you blithely say something that shows you don't know much about them. They're also a very un-hierarchal organization, in which one chapter can be completely differently run than another. As the video people inadvertently proved, when they couldn't get many ACORN chapters to fall for their little scam.
Originally Posted By Dabob2 <Hurry up and click, because they're sure to fix this as soon as they notice it.> Interesting indeed, mawnck... click on that link now and we find: "PDATE 2:24 PM EST** We muted the audio of the ACORN employees on the video released today due to ACORN’s legal attack upon us. We call upon ACORN to state publicly now that it has no objection to the public release of any its employees oral statements to us. If they are interested in the truth, why wouldn’t they do so?" So they've muted the audio?? And trying to say it's ACORN's fault? Or are they trying to hide the editing?
Originally Posted By mawnck Actually that sounds like a reasonable explanation, if it weren't for the long delay between posting the video and explaining the gaps. Best thing for ACORN and the employee to do, if the above tale is true, is to refuse permission and let 'em stew. Then we've got status quo: Guilty until proven innocent within the noise machine, and innocent until proven guilty for those whose gray matter is still firing.
Originally Posted By ecdc >>They're a greedy and dishonest organization that does nothing whatsoever to help the poor.<< Ignorance is bliss, I suppose. Anything to back up that claim of greed? The larger issue is how far many modern day conservatives have strayed from Jesus' message. It's abundantly clear that many of these people really resent the poor. They won't always come right out and say that, but their priorities show it. They defend business at all costs (including over rape victims) while attacking organizations that help the poor. They have this vision of business=hard working and American, and poor=lazy layabout socialists on the dole. It has no basis in reality, but since when have these people ever been worried about reality.
Originally Posted By Princessjenn5795 ^^Yeah...plus there is that whole "Thou shalt not bear false witness" commandment. Some of them are going to be really screwed by that one!
Originally Posted By mawnck Here's an eye-opening article from utahjosh's homepage ;-) . Dunno how credible this stuff is, but if true, it throws a lot of things into perspective: >>The truth is that O'Keefe never wore the pimp outfit into an ACORN office. Instead, he posed as a candidate for Congress that wanted to help a young woman caught in the trappings of prostitution. Supposedly, he wanted to help her, and her fellow prostitutes, escape the clutches of a brutal pimp by finding a place for them to live.<< >>Breitbart and his crew would have you believe that the ACORN staffers should have called the police when confronted with a prostitute. I hope the staffers, at first, were celebrating. It's not often you see a prostitute assert control over her life and try to break free from a pimp. The idea that this one was trying to take a whole crew of vulnerable underage women with her must have been amazing!<< >>In the end, I think I ruined their little press conference. Evidently, it hadn't occurred to them that they might face serious scrutiny. Why, for example, does O'Keefe dress up in the ridiculous pimp garb for the bumpers of the video when he didn't wear that costume into the ACORN offices? Why is Breitbart attaching his name and credibility to someone that was kicked out of his Rutgers dorm for refusing to cease his use of racial slurs? Exactly why would Breitbart expect an ACORN staffer to call the police on a Congressional candidate trying to rescue a young prostitute from her vicious pimp?<< <a href="http://www.huffingtonpost.com/mike-stark/all-you-need-to-know-abou_b_330643.html" target="_blank">http://www.huffingtonpost.com/...643.html</a>
Originally Posted By Mr X I knew that whole setup didn't pass the smell test. Doesn't matter, they managed to hoodwink lots of left wing politicians (Barney Frank among them) and damaged the Acorn organization plenty. *sigh*
Originally Posted By skinnerbox Just thought I'd resurrect this thread in light of Monday's arrests of O'Keefe and his minions for FELONY TRESPASS. Given what happened in Senator Landrieu's office, the whole ACORN situation with this bunch smells even worse than before. How can anyone claim these jerks are on the up-and-up now? Why would anyone want to be associated with them, or praise any of their actions? Here's hoping that FELONY TRESPASS charge sticks along with some others. Jail time for all of 'em.
Originally Posted By utahjosh O'Keefe and his guys do go about things the wrong way - especially when it's felony trespass. But that doesn't mean that some of what they revealed isn't accurate. I still don't trust the local ACORN offices.
Originally Posted By Sport Goofy << I still don't trust the local ACORN offices. >> Yeah, it's sad to say, but there still are quite a few people who don't trust minorities, particularly poor minorities. Someday we'll overcome racism and hate in the country. Someday.
Originally Posted By mawnck >>I still don't trust the local ACORN offices.<< I sure don't trust their gumball machines.
