Originally Posted By dshyates <a href="http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/national/david-frum-fired-after-criticizing-republicans/article1512668/" target="_blank">http://www.theglobeandmail.com...1512668/</a>
Originally Posted By SingleParkPassholder What this proves is the radical faction that controls today's GOP doesn't believe in any kind of free speeech or dissension. They're no different that Communists in that regard. They denigrate, distort and deny anyone who dares expose the hypocrisy. Rather than doi any kind self examination to see if someone like Frum has a point, they jettison him instead. Yep, they have all the answers. History will show these people to be the biggest bunch of idiots since the Salem Witch Trials.
Originally Posted By Mr X I realized that the day they threw Colin Powell under the bus. Since then, I've been amused to read about the likes of Bill O'Reilly, Newt Gingrich, Sean Hannity (of late), and yes even Sarah Palin (for helping McCain) being called out as "RINO's" and even "traitors". Noone is sacred. Well, I suppose in this picture the true Stalin figure is Rush Limbaugh...I don't really see them ever throwing him under the bus (nor do I ever imagine him giving them reason to though). Yep, it does sound awfully Commie, you're right Passholder.
Originally Posted By fkurucz Yet one more reason why I'm leaving the Republican party. And as others have said, this is a shame, as the Dems need a viable opposition party to keep them on their toes.
Originally Posted By Kar2oonMan David Frum has been telling them since the election that they need to get away from the overheated rhetoric of the tea baggers. The hardliners and thugs don't want to hear that, let alone even consider he may have a point, so out he goes. This is todays' GOP: angry and aimless.
Originally Posted By Mr X ***And as others have said, this is a shame, as the Dems need a viable opposition party to keep them on their toes.*** The situation of late shows why it's so ridiculous that there be only *one* opposing party. Don't like what the Democrats are doing? Well, then you have to be a Republican! What, those whacked out fools who are opposing everything and encouraging violence? Yup! That's your only other choice. Either you're a Republican, or you have to join the Democrats. Wha???? Personally, I think as the GOP diminishes in importance (and it might be in 10 years, or even 20 or 30, but it might even happen sooner), we'll see the Democratic party split in two and become the Blue Dog party and the Progressive party (with most of the former Republicans joining up with the Blue Dogs to pull them further right where they belong). In the meantime, I'm hoping some other philosophies come about in order to get rid of this silly 2 party notion once and for all. It is not good for America, we need more angles, more ideas, more options.
Originally Posted By Princessjenn5795 The problem I have with the two party system is that it gives people an excuse not to learn anything about policy or the people to make them. People vote for the R or D after a persons name and don't actually think for themselves. The Republicans attitude right now reminds me of a line from an Aerosmith song: "Chicken Little tells you that the sky is falling; even if wasn't would you still come crawling back again? I bet you would my friend, again and again and again."
Originally Posted By Dabob2 <David Frum has been telling them since the election that they need to get away from the overheated rhetoric of the tea baggers. The hardliners and thugs don't want to hear that, let alone even consider he may have a point, so out he goes. > That's correct, but it still surprised me that it was the American Enterprise Institute kicking him out. While always plenty right-wing, the AEI at least used to have the patina of intellectualism or at least a step above the rabble rousers. A group that might not require lockstep agreement on everything, certainly not on what was essentially a piece on political strategy rather than policy per se. That might allow conservatives to disagree among themselves sometimes and air those differing views. But I guess not.
Originally Posted By Kar2oonMan It's funny that the GOP accuses Obama supporters of "drinking the Kool Aid" and marching lockstep to Obama's tune. But if anyone gets even slightly out of line in the GOP, they turn on them like there's no tomorrow. It's pure hypocrisy -- much like the adoration of Ronald Reagan is somehow "different" than seeing Obama as the "messiah". They're too busy screaming and ranting to notice.
Originally Posted By dshyates Today's GOP has collectively lost it's mind. It is all just a bunch of mindless ranting and outrage. They are leaving rational conservatives scratching their heads as to what to do. The GOP adds nothing of relavance to political discourse.
Originally Posted By Kar2oonMan The best part of all of this is that it is wrapped in "patriotism." It's the same mindless, you're with us or you're against us nonsense from a few years back. If the Democrats were so absolutely uncooperative in the house and senate, and people on the left were carrying on, screaming, threatening politicians in this manner it would be branded as anti-American.
Originally Posted By Labuda "In the meantime, I'm hoping some other philosophies come about in order to get rid of this silly 2 party notion once and for all. It is not good for America, we need more angles, more ideas, more options." Amen to that!
Originally Posted By Dr Hans Reinhardt Do any conservatives still post in WE? I recall that during the Presidential elections there were lots of them here. I get the feeling that the choir is mostly talking to itself now.
Originally Posted By fkurucz ^^It depends on what you mean by "conservative". I consider myself a conservative even though the Troll kept calling me a liberal because I didn't pass his litmus test (it's probably because I don't watch Fox News).
Originally Posted By Dr Hans Reinhardt Call them whatever you want I guess. I'm talking about the right leaning folks who were very outspoken against gay marriage (Prop 8), claimed that Obama was inexperienced, and espoused much of the same rhetoric that was being touted on FOX News at the time.
Originally Posted By gadzuux "Celebrity!" Remember that one? Paris Hilton? It seems almost quaint now - a love tap - compared to what we've seen and heard since then. And it's only been two years.
Originally Posted By Yookeroo "In the meantime, I'm hoping some other philosophies come about in order to get rid of this silly 2 party notion once and for all. It is not good for America, we need more angles, more ideas, more options." We need to change the way we elect our leaders before there's any chance a 3rd party becomes viable. Something like Instant-Runoff Voting would do the trick: <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Instant-runoff_voting" target="_blank">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/I...f_voting</a>
Originally Posted By SuperDry <<< ^^It depends on what you mean by "conservative". I consider myself a conservative even though the Troll kept calling me a liberal because I didn't pass his litmus test (it's probably because I don't watch Fox News). >>> Same here. In fact, I'm a card-carrying Republican. But I've sometimes been called a RINO around here, but more often a liberal or a "lib" because I'm not hard over to the far right. Anyone that doesn't espouse a far right opinion immediately gets tagged with a divisive (and often, inaccurate) label by those that do.
