Originally Posted By planodisney In todays MiceAge article, Al states that a new lagoon show will hit the DCA lagoon by next winter. Many people online have been talking about late night testing they have seen going on at DCA in the last few days. Also, Marcie at Mouseinfo, as well as a few others, posted information that the DCA sun plaza placemaking has finally been signed off on and will begin, along with the entrance placemaking, this fall. She also stated that HPB will finally get a connecting pathwat to FFF at the same time. INTERESTING!! Just thought we could use a little rumor talk over here.
Originally Posted By ni_teach > new lagoon show will hit the DCA lagoon All I can say is...."about time". I can not understand why they have been putting this off for so long. That lagoon needs a show.
Originally Posted By Hans Reinhardt "She also stated that HPB will finally get a connecting pathwat to FFF at the same time." That seems like a good idea for traffic flow, but illogical in terms of story telling.
Originally Posted By WorldDisney ^^^Yeah, but its certainly needed. Why they haven't done this when FFF first opened is beyound me. It's really annoying to hit TOT when you realize you have to go alll the way around to hit Calif. Screamin and then go alll the way back to spend the next 12 hours at DL .
Originally Posted By ArchtMig >>>That seems like a good idea for traffic flow, but illogical in terms of story telling.<<< Story telling was never a priority for the folks in charge of HPB, TOT, Flick's Fun Fair, and the relationship of these three to one another. Everything at DCA seems shoehorned in at the last minute without much thought to long range planning or relationships. I hope that the new people in charge of DCA have better story telling abilities, and can work some miracles with the existing cards they have been dealt.
Originally Posted By imagineer1985 Well to be honest many of the connections in DCA are abrupt as well... IE Frontier land and Fantasyland tomorrowland and fantasyland Adventure and New Orleans. What do you expecT?
Originally Posted By ChurroMonster Ginat talking bugs are equally as terrifying as a free-falling haunted elevator. The transition is fine.
Originally Posted By Westsider Didn't you guys pay attention to Barry Braverman and all of his media interviews during the 2000-01 period as DCA was getting ready to open? Per Barry, DCA is "not about storytelling, it's about placemaking". The park was designed on purpose to not tell much of a story, and that's right out of the lead designers mouth in multiple formal interviews and press releases. We've heard a lot of rumors and buzz about a "Placemaking Project" for DCA lately, but the word "placemaking" was something Barry Braverman, and occasionally Pressler and Cynthia etc., were using five years ago to describe DCA's mission statement. DCA is not about storytelling. To make it about storytelling would require a massive rethink of nearly every section of the park, and a lot of rebuilding. Like it or not, that is what that park has to offer it's customers.
Originally Posted By Hans Reinhardt Gosh, I hardly expected my comments to initiate such a heated response. It was simply an comment on Disney theme park design, but not surprisingly, the Old Guard took it as an opportunity to bash the place. "Everything at DCA seems shoehorned in at the last minute without much thought to long range planning or relationships." So not true. How abouttransitions along the route through Condor Flats, Grizzly Recreation Area, The Bay Area and Paradise Pier? I think the designers transitioned these areas quite nicely.
Originally Posted By Kar2oonMan I think one of the coolest "effects" in DCA is the queue into the Bug's theater. Great use of subtle forced perspective as you decend into the theater, your POV goes from human sized down to a bug's viewpoint. The rocks are more like little pebbles at first, and eventually seem like enourmous boulders as you enter the ants' tunnel. There's not a lot of room between HPB and bug's land, but it will be interesting to see what they come up with to create a transistion between these two areas. Perhaps we walk through a large magnifying glass that serves as a "movie prop" on the HPB side, or some other device. In any case, I'm glad they're linking those two areas. Should make it much easier to maneuver through the park, especially for parents with children too small for ToT.
Originally Posted By woody "Great use of subtle forced perspective as you decend into the theater, your POV goes from human sized down to a bug's viewpoint." I think that's how Disney thinks about its customers. You go into DCA and your perspective changes from Disneyland-quality to pea-sized bug quality and then, you're expected to like it and you'll spend tons of money for over-priced food and souvenirs.
Originally Posted By Jim in Merced CA Ladies and gentlemen, the tired comic stylings of woody! Make him feel welcome!
Originally Posted By ni_teach > In any case, I'm glad they're linking those two areas. Should make it much easier to maneuver through the park, especially for parents with children too small for ToT. By making the area not a dead end, I can’t help but to worry about having the Bug's Land getting too crowed. (And I’m going to resist all the jokes about crowds at the DCA).
Originally Posted By disneywatcher >> Per Barry, DCA is "not about storytelling, it's about placemaking". << Braverman truly was a numbskull in the category of creativity. It's a shame he ever left the setting of the grade-school classroom.
Originally Posted By iluvdisneyland I've been running this over in my head, and I cannot see a pathway linking Hollywood Pictures Backlot and Flik's Fun Fair - unless it is underground. The problem is that between Flik's and Hollywood/Tower is a service road that connects the backstage areas of Resort Special Events and other attractions/stores to Coast Road (the main DCA service road). I don't know how that one is going to work (if it will at all - I've never believed much out of Marci at MouseInfo).
Originally Posted By berol I was thinking they'd move the gate to the walkway. I suppose parades would start there instead of the plaza.
Originally Posted By oc_dean >>Waitress! I need another gin & tonic.<< And get me a visky - AND DON'T STINGY, BABY!!
Originally Posted By LuvDatDisney "Braverman truly was a numbskull in the category of creativity. It's a shame he ever left the setting of the grade-school classroom." Yes, but he was a cunning genius when it came to politicing, which is why he was handed DCA to begin with. Heck, his longevity at WDI is a tribute to how well he nailed the concept of telling the boss(es) exactly what they wanted to hear.
