The master returns to Star Wars

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    Originally Posted By DDMAN26

    <a target="blank" rel="nofollow" href="http://www.usatoday.com/story/life/movies/2013/07/27/john-williams-star-wars-episode-vii/2592441/">http://www.usatoday.com/story/...2592441/</a>

    No not George Lucas but John Williams. A Star Wars movie without his score wouldn't be the same
     
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    Originally Posted By Jim in Merced CA

    Yay!
     
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    Originally Posted By oc_dean

    Oh, I always thought ... that's just a given. Imagine a Star Wars movie that doesn't at least have the familiar credit role music.

    To know he is doing the entire film ... is a great to hear. I thought he was retired. Good to know he's still creating memorable music scores for films.

    It will be weird .. because I'm so use to the 20th Century Fox intro ... this will be the first time a Star Wars film won't have that.
     
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    Originally Posted By dagobert

    Why is the 20th Century Fox theme so important to so many SW fans? I know it was at the beginning of all sic SW movies, but it's just the intro of the distribution studio. It isn't even Fox's product.

    I'm glad that Williams is returning, but they should bring another composer who works with him. I mean Williams is old and hopefully he will have the time to do all new three movies.
     
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    Originally Posted By leemac

    <<I thought he was retired.>>

    For a 80 year old he has still been churning out scores! Lincoln, War Horse, Tintin etc.

    I guess it makes sense - personally I'd have loved Michael Giacchino to have had a stab at it - to make it distinct and unique as a new trilogy. I'm guessing Disney will look to trade off the nostalgia for the first set of three movies.
     
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    Originally Posted By dagobert

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    I guess it makes sense - personally I'd have loved Michael Giacchino to have had a stab at it - to make it distinct and unique as a new trilogy. I'm guessing Disney will look to trade off the nostalgia for the first set of three movies.<<<

    Is Disney heavily involved in the new SW movies, or will it be handled mainly by Lucasfilm, like Marvel is doing business?

    Giacchino would be a perfect choice for SW after Williams. He did already the ST:II soundtrack.

    Bythe way, do you know anything what WDI is going to show at D23 about the SW attractions mentioned in the Disney Insider Blog.
     
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    Originally Posted By leemac

    <<Is Disney heavily involved in the new SW movies, or will it be handled mainly by Lucasfilm, like Marvel is doing business?>>

    Depends on your definition of "involved" - folks like Alan Horn and Sean Bailey are all over the entire slate. Kevin Feige has some independence at MARVEL but he still needs approval and assistance from the Studios. It will be the same for Kathleen Kennedy at Lucasfilm.
     
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    Originally Posted By leemac

    <<Bythe way, do you know anything what WDI is going to show at D23 about the SW attractions mentioned in the Disney Insider Blog.>>

    I do - there will be some blue sky development stuff - nothing specific - for now. It is mainly just to highlight the work that goes in to blue sky conceptualisation.
     
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    Originally Posted By dagobert

    The SW Celebration Europe is over and there weren't any big announcements about the upcoming movies, except for John Williams, but I didn't expect any.

    Do you think there will be some at the D23 Expo?
     
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    Originally Posted By oc_dean

    >>Why is the 20th Century Fox theme so important to so many SW fans? <<

    Just use to it.

    After seeing it in all 6 films .. with repeat viewings .. they just seem to go hand in hand with each other. The 20th Century Fox intro score is so "commanding" it sets up John Williams score just perfectly.

    There is no other studio, throughout history .. who has such a powerful and melodic intro.

    MGM ... was a lion's roar.
    Warner Bros, Columbia, Disney, Paramount were often silent ... or whatever the film's music was .. started with the logo piece.

    20th Century F's .... really stands out.
     
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    Originally Posted By oc_dean

    It's not just important to fans ...but to Star Wars concerts such as this one:

    <a target="blank" rel="nofollow" href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vAUVaBFtjfc">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v...VaBFtjfc</a>
     
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    Originally Posted By dagobert

    >>>20th Century F's .... really stands out.<<<

    That's true. Fox has definitely the best intro, followed by Disney's.

    However I don't care that we will not see or hear Fox's intro at the beginning of Episode VII, although I'm also used to it.
     
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    Originally Posted By oc_dean

    As a big fan of widescreen film processes that made their debut in the 50s - when Fox extended their intro to include "In CinemaScope" ... that just completed it.

    Here's a history to Fox's logo/intro through the decades....

    <a target="blank" rel="nofollow" href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tMPPWOsGe2Y">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v...PWOsGe2Y</a>

    As CinemaScope became more the norm ... Fox shortened it again, like before. But in the '77 release of Star Wars .. the musical extension returned ... replacing "In CinemaScope" for "Lucas Film Limited"

    And if anyone noticed ... in that Renée Zellweger and Ewan McGregor film - Down with Love ..it was a nice little touch the beginning had the 50s "20th Century Fox/CinemaScope" intro.
     
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    Originally Posted By mawnck

    >>Here's a history to Fox's logo/intro through the decades<<

    Cool video.

    Since I'm the resident pedant about such things, I'll go ahead and say that I wish the guy who made it knew what he was doing. Several aspect ratio problems there, and I think the fanfares in the higher key may be sped-up PAL transfers.
     
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    Originally Posted By basil fan

    >>The 20th Century Fox intro score is so "commanding" it sets up John Williams score just perfectly.

    Agreed. Plus, it was the first movie I ever saw with that intro. At least, as far as I can remember.

    I associated it so much with Star Wars that I thought it strange when it appeared with any other movie.

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    Originally Posted By Dabob2

    It wouldn't surprise me at all if Williams set the SW theme in the key he did because he knew it would be following that intro. It just follows perfectly.
     
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    Originally Posted By Jim in Merced CA

    <Since I'm the resident pedant about such things, I'll go ahead and say that I wish the guy who made it knew what he was doing. Several aspect ratio problems there, and I think the fanfares in the higher key may be sped-up PAL transfers.>

    Definitely noticed the modulated miusic on a couple. A great look back at an iconic movie intro. On the next update it would be neat to have dates associated with each clip.
     

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