Originally Posted By AladdinAZ I missed the first few minutes of the Muppets Wizard of Oz, but began watching as soon as I got home from work. It was completely enjoyable, UNTIL an hour after the show started. There he was, the Egotistical Emperor of Evil, Eisner. This is just plain awful, see this @$$**** playing the part of Walt Disney. Horrendous! Absolutely horrendous!
Originally Posted By Imagineer This LOL! I was thinking the same thing. Eisner really does not represent Disney anymore so why do we have to see his face when watching a Disney show? Let us enjoy the program at least. ;-)
Originally Posted By Imagineer This Do you think Eisner is so delusional that he actual thinks he is as good as or better than Walt Disney and Jim Henson for that matter? (
Originally Posted By RoadTrip Dumping on Eisner is really yesterday's news. Can't you guys come up with something a little more current?
Originally Posted By guerillagorilla ><Can't you guys come up with something a little more current?>< Why? Eisner-bashing is just as pertinent now as it's ever been! For what the man's done to the Mouse the last decade, he deserves to receive some mudslinging.
Originally Posted By oc_dean Eisner is leaving this September, right? So .. shouldn't he begin the process of phasing himself out ... and have new hosts .. to do these spots? Seems the practical thing to do ... Or do we have to tolerate him to his last breath come a few months from now?
Originally Posted By WilliamK99 I guess this is a bad time to tell you about the Eisner appearance in the new Chicken Little movie. ;o)
Originally Posted By Witches of Morva ORDDU: It's never too late--or too early--to tell the truth about Mr. Eisner. As long as he keeps giving us so much to dislike about him, he'll keep being 'dumpted' on. ORGOCH: Got that right! And that dang Muppet Wizard of Oz thing was nothin' but TRASH!!
Originally Posted By AladdinAZ "Dumping on Eisner is really yesterday's news" Don't be disillusioned. It's Eisner that made another appearance. I will continue to be vocal anytime Eisner shows his face, representing the Disney Company. And just for your information, I won't become silent about Eisner after he is officially gone either. Unfortunate as it is, he will always be a part of the Disney corporate history. However his actions and decisions, failures during his reign as the Evil Emperor should be a warning to future leaders in Disney.
Originally Posted By belle42 It might have been smart to have the new CEO start to introduce himself to the unwashed masses. Eisner needed to step back and let Iger play the part of Walt.
Originally Posted By AladdinAZ but Eisner is so used to burning bridges, it must be difficult for that pyromaniac to stop. That's why he's so desperate to hang on thru the official birthday on July 17th. All those candles, and all those flames! Heck, he probably even enjoys the heckling and flamming discussions about him.
Originally Posted By RoadTrip Say what you want about Eisner... Disney is without a doubt a far stronger company today than it was when Eisner took the helm.
Originally Posted By Imagineer This In the Disneywar book it says Eisner thrives on stress. Maybe he gets a big kick out of the "Eisner Bashing", so why disappoint him now? ;-)
Originally Posted By oc_dean >>Say what you want about Eisner... Disney is without a doubt a far stronger company today than it was when Eisner took the helm.<< ........... Just to be reversed by 10 years of mistakes. While he will be remembered for what good he did do (1984-1994) ... history will make it's judgement how well he regarded the company in his final years. If he was a smart person ... he would have had the wisdom to shore up his reputation a bit. But when you are constantly running good talent out the door ....... It does not take Rocket Science to figure out his ego was/is out of control. He's tainted his legacy forever! Unless he pulls some magic trick out of his hat between now and fall, I'm not sure if he has any interest to put himself in a position where we will think better of him. Instead, I think he'll just laugh his way to the bank with the millions he made. Stay out of the limelight .. and golf all day.
Originally Posted By Jonny626 The only place Eisner's face should be appearing is on the back of a milk carton. After he was practically BOOed of the stage at the castle un-veiling you would think he wold be smart enough not to show his face in anything Disney related. As far as the "good" he did, there are plenty of other people that could have used a little more imagination then just pulling some stuff out of the vault. Eisner got his so called "good" reputation in the beginning of his term by using other peoples idea's and imagination. The fact is that he let the upkeep of DL o down so he could us the corporate money to buy out 2 companies that he used to work at. You don't get much more egotistical than that. I agree 100% with AladdinAZ and I will always remember Mr. Eisner as "The killer of dreams" I hope Walt slaps him across the face in the after life. Although it might be hard considering Walt will be up high and you'd have to reach pretty low to hit Mike.
Originally Posted By RoadTrip I hate to intrude on the joy of Eisner bashing by introducing facts, but you might want to take a look at the following: <<What is the proper measure of a Hollywood mogul? For entertainment reporters, it's often a mogul's personal behavior. The more incidents of arrogance and insensitivity they uncover, the more they assume that a mogul is an ineffective leader. Consider the recent frenzy of items about Michael Eisner, which ended in his announced resignation from Disney. It will be recalled that Eisner alienated a host of would-be moguls—including Jeffrey Katzenberg (whom he called a "midget"), Michael Ovitz (whom he called a "psychopath"), Roy Disney (whom he kicked off the board), and Harvey Weinstein (whom he forced out of Miramax). These men, by one means or another, yielded an El Dorado of gotcha items to the press. What was lost in this morality tale was the story of Eisner's transformation of Disney. He turned a faltering animation-and-amusement-park company into one of the world's most successful purveyors of home entertainment. If you look at Eisner's metrics—the numbers that Wall Street believes are unambiguous indicators of a company's performance—Disney boomed under Eisner.>> Entire article: <a href="http://slate.msn.com/id/2116794/" target="_blank">http://slate.msn.com/id/211679 4/</a>
Originally Posted By narkspud >>the numbers that Wall Street believes are unambiguous indicators of a company's performance<< There's the crux of the matter right there.
Originally Posted By RoadTrip ^^^ Yes it is. You must remember... the CEO is responsible to the stockholders, NOT to hard core Disney fans. Sad but true.
Originally Posted By AladdinAZ Just as Eisner has destroyed relations with various companys, that had once partnered with Disney. And the Animation department WAS successful, until recently, dismanteled. SO not only has Eisner well overstayed his welcome at Disney, BUT in leaving the company, he is leaving a legacy of burning bridges with other companies and important individuals AND Eisner has proved himself to be an arsonist within the very company he is to be consciencious of long term interests. He never had the ability to lead Disney by himself, which is what this dictator has been doing since Wells passed away. And things have been slowly degenerating ever since.
Originally Posted By oc_dean >>You must remember... the CEO is responsible to the stockholders, NOT to hard core Disney fans.<< Excuse me Trippy ... a CEO is responsible to the customers who are willing to open their wallets first .. and stockholders come second. No customers? No use in discussing stockholders.
