Originally Posted By mickeymorris1234 Was just reading Al Lutz colum today and read this - "TDA is now eyeing the Christmas season and five of the busiest weeks of the calendar for the Anaheim park. What is being proposed here is to take the basic Halloween party model and transfer it to the Christmas season, making the Christmas Fantasy Parade and the Believe In Holiday Magic fireworks newly exclusive events only performed on extra-cost party nights in December. The thought is that these two major entertainment offerings would be enough of a draw to drive 20,000 or more nightly party ticket sales if that was the only way you could see those two very popular holiday offerings." HAVE THEY LOST IT!!! Christmas time and Disneyland is 100% amazing because of those two events!!! Disney let me make myself loud and clear (not that they will care all that much) DO NOT DO IT!!!! You will ruin Christmas time at Disneyland if you do this!! Holy Crap this just made me so mad! I'm fuming! DO NOT DO IT! YOU WILL DESTROY CHRISTMAS TIME AT DISNEYLAND!!!!!
Originally Posted By SpokkerJones Become a needy inner-city child and you can visit Disneyland for free. That's my plan!
Originally Posted By Dr Hans Reinhardt Interestingly Al is putting a somewhat positive spin on this new development. Seems that he's in favor of it if it improves guest experience, which it undoubtedly would.
Originally Posted By gadzuux Al provides the backstory to this. It's the inevitable result of over a million APers. The "premium offerings" will be reserved for people who pay for them, instead of the hordes of APers descending on the park for a few hours in the tens of thousands. The result is that the people attending these events (by purchasing the hard tickets) have a much better time, and the park realizes greater revenue with less headache and hassle.
Originally Posted By Sparrow I don't think it'll happen. Halloween Time at Disneyland is a recent thing and it's a whole family friendly Halloween experience at a theme park. That's why I personally think it's so popular. Christmas time at Disneyland (including the parade and fireworks) has been a tradition at the park for 20+ years and it would be really sad to make it an exclusive event. What next? Charge extra if guests want to go on IASW Holiday?
Originally Posted By doombuggy GOOD! I knew they would do this if Halloween worked out. They need to cause they WAY over sold the AP. They should just black out ALL AP levels for all the holidays. Now before some of you APers out there start whining and think you are entitled to every thing. You still get to go to DL when ever you want.
Originally Posted By Dr Hans Reinhardt Of what? APs aren't exclusive; they are available to anyone who wants to buy one.
Originally Posted By 999HAUNTS Oh brother. I didn't know that jokes weren't allowed on LP anymore. I will make a note of that.
Originally Posted By Witches of Morva ORDDU: If Disneyland management handles this situation the same way Disney World does, it might not be so bad. In Florida there are a few days before Christmas when the private parties come to an end and anyone can experience them. It means an AP holder has to plan ahead to know which of those few days is most convenient to go to the park, but at least they wouldn't have to miss out on the Christmas parades altogether.
Originally Posted By Manfried Good old Al, use the scare tactics. Oh, and then there are the Disney insiders feeding him true and false information in order to get things their way.
Originally Posted By mickeymorris1234 I'm sorry, charging now for a parade and fireworks show that people look forward to every year really ticks me off. Halloween is new, but Christmas at Disney is when thousands of NON APer's come to the parks to experience it during it's Christmas magic. I'm not mad because it would take away these shows for AP holder, I would be willing to pay up to spend a day with light crowds, its all those people that save money just to come to Disneyland during Christmas. I know many families that wait till Christmas to go rather than the summer since Christmas is so much more magical. Every time I wait for the fireworks show most of the people around me are from out of state and I had one from Australasia who said comes to Disneyland ONLY during Christmas time, this is going to screw these people more than it will us because we have a heads up on it if it happens. But all those people they will pay the 101.00 for a park hopper only to find out that they need to spend another 50.00 per person to enjoy Christmas time at Disneyland. Sorry Dr. if I'm scaring you this just hacks me off.
Originally Posted By mickeymorris1234 My family is one of those families. I am the only one in my family who has a pass because I did the monthly payment plans for my Deluxe. Next year if this happens and it falls on a day when we can go as a family for a "party" day - GRRR!!!!!
Originally Posted By Witches of Morva ORDDU: Manfried, I'd say you're using some unpleasant tactics of your own to try and put Mr. Lutz in an unplesant light. But it only serves to put you in an unpleasant light.
Originally Posted By Fowley >> I had one from Australasia who said comes to Disneyland ONLY during Christmas time, this is going to screw these people << We come from Australia and are FULLY aware of what Disneyland are up to. If they choose to travel overseas and do no research at all well, more fools them. >>Oh brother. I didn't know that jokes weren't allowed on LP anymore. I will make a note of that.<< This is a privilege deemed only worthy of those who think they are funny and special
Originally Posted By SpokkerJones A better approach would be dynamic pricing of tickets and passes based on the day, time of day and expected crowd levels. Weekdays would be priced lower than weekends, and holidays would be priced the most. Potential guests could make more informed decisions about which days to visit. Far more fair than exclusive events.
Originally Posted By gadzuux Not really - it doesn't address the issue of APers. And therein lies the rub.
