Originally Posted By Westsider Hey gang, what with all the talk about uncool stuff like ticket price increases and class action lawsuits, I thought it would be nice to remind us about all the good stuff that is associated with having Disneyland in SoCal. First off... the WEATHER! Man, has this been a gorgeous summer! The temps all summer have been mild and pleasant. Nearly consistent 82 degree days with 65 degree nights. Have you seen the weather they suffer through back East? Texas in a humid deathgrip heatwave, Florida with the usual humidity and rain and oppersive air, the Midwest with rolling thunderstorms and tornados and flooding. No thanks, I'll take sunny and dry SoCal any day of the week. And this summer is going down as one of the mildest, most pleasant, and most golden summers in memory. And another great thing about Disneyland and SoCal, the air quality is so much improved. Smog is a word that the new generation doesn't even now about. When was the last time we had any kind of Smog Alert in OC? 10 years ago? 15 years ago? Even in the Inland Empire they rarely go above "Moderate", which in Beijing would be like "Abnormally Sterile Air". I remember as a kid when your lungs would hurt on the Smog Alert days, but those ended 15 years ago and they've never returned. The air just keeps getting cleaner and crisper year after year, with Smog Alerts a relic of the 20th century. Things really are great here in SoCal this summer, especially compared to many other parts of the country and what they have to put up with day after day. I'm really very glad Walt picked OC to build his little park in, aren't you?
Originally Posted By mousermerf Picked OC, then became tired of it and planned the biggie in Florida, even an apartment in the castle for himself there. Question: Is there a purpose for this propaganda-esque posting? It really seems like you're trying to rally support - i'd say too blatantly. I mean, the weather? You mean the weather that prevents special holiday fireworks from being performed and the earthquakes that shut down the entire park during an operational day? Lovely weather..
Originally Posted By WDWdreamin Wow, mousermurf! I don't know what Westsider would be rallying support for. ... Disneyland?... oh the horror on a Disney fan site! I appreciate the positive post, Westsider. There are positives and negatives to everything and every place. Southern California does generally have great weather and I'm glad that DL is there. I hope you who live there are enjoying the mild summer and DL. I just wish I could go more often.
Originally Posted By Westsider Regarding post #2, uh.... wow. And yeah, it's a cheerleader kind of thing. It just seemed the boards were kind of bummed out the past day or two with folks a bit cranky about ticket prices and the CM's at work scratching their heads about all of these legal packets we got in the mail on Saturday. But you look outside and realize what a great summer we are having, and how much fun working and playing at Disneyland is, especially lately. Big things coming next door at DCA too! And when I was at the CM coffee cart at Harbor Point on Friday I saw the new blue monorail go by in the dusky sun and it looked jaw droppingly beautiful! Cheer up, things are pretty great this summer at Disneyland! (Was I not supposed to post that on a Disneyland message board?)
Originally Posted By Westsider And my comment about the smog was actually triggered by a conversation I had with an older guest in the back of a canoe recently. He was having a blast paddling away, and we got to talking past the Indian Village, and he reminded me that 15 or 20 years ago doing that much strenuous labor in SoCal in the middle of a summer afternoon would have made your lungs hurt. He moved from SoCal years ago, and he was amazed at the views he saw the day before from the top of the Sun Wheel without any smog fowling the vista of Santa Catalina and the San Gabriel Mountains. He said you never would have been able to see that far in the 1960's and 70's, especially in summer. While I just caught the tail end of the 20th century smog in my youth, I had to agree with him that things have really improved when it comes to air quality. Just another nice thing to remember about how great summer at Disneyland is now. (Was that inappropriate for a Disneyand message board too?)
Originally Posted By submarine-maniac <<But you look outside and realize what a great summer we are having, and how much fun working and playing at Disneyland is, especially lately.>> I completely agree westsider! I have been working at Disneyland for about a month now and I have never had so much fun at a job! I can tell just by crossing Town Square that the guests are really enjoying the amazing weather. Also, westsider, what time did you see the new monorail? I'm always working at night/late afternoon and I have not seen it yet. But when I first saw monorail red, I had the same reaction, jaw droppingly beautiful! Oh, mousemerf, I didn't know earthquakes were part of the weater. haha jk tho, I know what you mean. But in Florida, don't they have to worry about hurricanes? and realllllllly realllllllly humid summers? I think I would take the dry socal with the earthquake maybe every other year.
Originally Posted By -PLP- Post #2, I hope you don't plan on moving here since it all appears so negative to you. Take Care
Originally Posted By Dabob2 <Something to do with onshore breezes and "catch basin" mountains.> I think it's called an "inversion layer." Smoke rises to a certain point and then flattens out rather than rising further. Balboa even noted it from the fires the natives were using to cook with.
Originally Posted By -PLP- Good Morning to You STIL..Great to hear from you!! No call yet but thats kool...fixing up the house while i wait. Hope You & my B-D buddy are doing well.. :')
Originally Posted By SoThisIsLove We're doing very well, thank you very much! Your b-day buddy thinks you are a great guy. Hopefully you two can celebrate it together some day at DL, with an October boy thrown in for extra spice! You three could rule the school, I am quite certain! Well, keep us posted, will ya? I'm more freaked out about it than you are, probably. (Well, I'm probably not, but I'll bet I'm close up there!)
Originally Posted By davewasbaloo I think the weather is a part of why I would rather go to DL than any other site around the globe.
Originally Posted By danyoung To be fair, Westsider, you had a pretty good heat streak early on in the spring. But your lack of humidity is a big factor. And I also have to say that I'll take the air in Florida over OC air any day of the week. You can really tell when the Santa Anna winds have come through, as you can actually see the mountains east of DL for a few days. I'm sure your air quality is improving, which is good. But let's not go overboard here - SoCal still has a long way to go, OC included. But I do appreciate your sentiment!
Originally Posted By USCSurfer Disney may have put their "biggie" in Florida, but that's only because of what they learned from the Anaheim experience. Buy up property around the site was something they learned very quickly from the Anaheim park. Even so, what I found so interesting in the 10 years I worked attractions at the park back in the 80s was how many guests just loved Disneyland. And a strong majority who had been to both parks still liked Disneyland as much, if not more than the Florida park. Certainly the Disney complex down in FL is quite the resort. But that doesn't change the fact that Disneyland will always be THE park that has very special meaning being that it is the original, and the one that Walt actually walked in. No matter how big the FL resort becomes, it will never have what makes the park in Anaheim so special.
Originally Posted By davewasbaloo >>>Even so, what I found so interesting in the 10 years I worked attractions at the park back in the 80s was how many guests just loved Disneyland. And a strong majority who had been to both parks still liked Disneyland as much, if not more than the Florida park.<<< Yep, I am definately one of those. My last WDW trip I considered stopping going to Disney resorts all together. My last trip to DL made me a born again DL Fan!
Originally Posted By davewasbaloo Indeed California does have a way to go still on air quality, but there is no doubt it is so much better than 20 years ago.
Originally Posted By mousermerf *sips coffee from the CM coffee kart* Mm.. nothing like viral propaganda to counteract a negative buying consciousness in your primary market when you make a blatant price hike while removing offerings. It's so sunny and perfect that it's better then before, despite the higher prices.
Originally Posted By u k fan I would have thought propaganda on LP was a waste of time. We're either so into Disney we don't care about the price hike or so clued up that we see it for what it is. Either way - pointless. Now if you'll excuse me I'm off to help Elvis shoot JFK!!!
Originally Posted By Mr X Er, I hate to say this, but mousermerf you need to get a life. Of course WD picked Florida as his next project...he had room to expand there and a whole new market to exploit (duh). That doesn't mean that SoCal doesn't rock, it does. Central Florida blows, trust me. It's nice to go there for a week or so, IF you want to go ride rides in theme parks, but that's IT. Orange Country/SoCal is freakin amazing. One of the coolest places on Earth. I've always thought so, but a day trip with Darkbeer and Co definitely sealed the deal, we saw mountains, vistas, incredible beaches, casinos, lovely San Diego, and were back at my Disneyland area hotel in time for dinner. Can't do THAT in Florida. And earthquakes? Tell that to my Florida relatives that spend a full FOURTEEN days sitting around there house in the blistering Florida sun without electricity eating MRE's and venturing in shifts from the house trying to locate potable water...just a few years ago. Sure, Central Florida has been spared thus far the full brunt of a hurricane, but so wasn't New Orleans til they weren't. Pu Leeze
Originally Posted By danyoung >...nothing like viral propaganda to counteract a negative buying consciousness in your primary market...< If you're implying that our buddy Westsider is in some way a company plant, then you're simply being paranoid.
