Originally Posted By Darkbeer IMHO, a good description on how the WDW turnstile system works... <a href="http://www.secureidnews.com/library/2006/03/02/biometrics-at-the-disney-gates/" target="_blank">http://www.secureidnews.com/li brary/2006/03/02/biometrics-at-the-disney-gates/</a> ENJOY!
Originally Posted By mrkthompsn The company that I work for designed those things. We have a bottle of Purell next to each hand reader. I wonder if Disney does the same.
Originally Posted By LacyBelle mrkthompsn, I was thinking about Purell as I read the article and wondering the same thing. I'm sure the APers will be along to let us know. I guess that's something else to add to my packing checklist, just in case.
Originally Posted By Roger55 I have never seen Purell or any anti-bacterial product at the gates. I do however, bring my own.
Originally Posted By Indigo Forget the turnstiles, I always feel like I need full body sanitization after using the restrooms at the parks. You used to be able to count on them being clean as a whistle, but not so much anymore.
Originally Posted By BlazesOfFire *after skimmin the article.. Still dont understand why annual passholders cant have a card. I am always afraid i am going to lose or rip my lil precious pass!
Originally Posted By Roger55 Passes w/Picture require a human CM to verify you are not entering with someone else's AP. The biometric system is supposed to in theory reduce the number of CMs working the gate (i.e. $$$ saver) and also take any guess work out of determining if a pass really does belong to the person trying to use it.
Originally Posted By imadisneygal When this was first talked about at Disneyland the VP of Operations told us that even if Disneyland ever went with this type of ID system, which is pretty cool and hard to argue with, that it would never be acceptable to have fewer than one CM per entry gate. I know they have one for two gates sometimes down in FL but at DL there is still one and only one CM per entry turnstile. Personally I think that not having a CM there to welcome each Guest individually is horrible show. I do, however, like the biometrics thing because I can't tell you how many people I argued with over using someone else's AP with the little, grainy, computer generated pics. "No, that's really me!!! I just cut my hair and gained about 100 pounds." Uh huh. That's not an argument anyone wants to have. Biometrics all but eliminates that. That said, I sincerely dislike the idea of having less than one CM per turnstile at entry. JMHO.
Originally Posted By imadisneygal "That said, I sincerely dislike the idea of having less than one CM per turnstile at entry. JMHO." What I meant to say is that I dislike the idea of having more than one entry turnstile per CM. When I reread that it sounds like I don't like the idea of 1/2 a CM at a turnstile - which is true, but weird.
Originally Posted By BlazesOfFire At Animal Kingdom yesterday, there were at 2 CMs for our turnstile. I think that made some people mad cuz the line to get in was atrociously long and the people behind me were complaining that the other CM shouldve opened another line.
Originally Posted By SuperDry <<< I do, however, like the biometrics thing because I can't tell you how many people I argued with over using someone else's AP with the little, grainy, computer generated pics. "No, that's really me!!! I just cut my hair and gained about 100 pounds." Uh huh. That's not an argument anyone wants to have. Biometrics all but eliminates that. >>> I think it's interesting how the different resorts have gone in completely different directions with respect to all aspects of ticketing. Obviously, there are going to be differences in pricing policies and park-hopping rules due to variations in the local markets, but in addition to that, things like the type of media used (especially for APs), and whether the barcode or mag stripe is used seem to be all over the map. It's quite clear that these decisions are being made individually at each resort. Contrast this with how FP turned out: essentially the same rules at every park worldwide, including tweaks like the "2 hour rule" that allows you to get another FP no later than 2 hours after the last one.
Originally Posted By mrkthompsn what a waste of time. Just let people sell their passes and be done with it.
Originally Posted By ssWEDguy >> what a waste of time. Just let people sell their passes and be done with it. << You're joking, right? But just in case you're not -- Disney's aggressive pricing policy is built so that it reduces the daily price for someone who's going to be on property longer. What they lose on the ticket price they figure they'll make back on other park purchases. If you share a 7-day pass with other persons who will be in the park for just one day, there's a serious loss of cash to the primary creative supplier. The guest selling their ticket effectively becomes a scalper. Unless you think scalping is ok too. I know! Why not buy one copy of a CD, copy it, and sell it to your friends for $1 and be done with it?
Originally Posted By Perdie The funny thing about the biometrics is that it doesn't really work! My husband and I tested it every time we went to the parks last month. We lept trading tickets to see if it would work, and the majority of the time, I would say 85% it worked. Here's the best part: If our fingerprints didn't match, the CM would just re encode the ticket to match your fingerprints...like it was just a glitch in the system, they never asked for ID! Only once in 10 days did we say "Oh, I must have my husband's ticket" or vice versa....the system is very inconsistent!
Originally Posted By Perdie I also meant 85% of the time, it didn't work...we could use each other's tickets all the time! We kept swicthing, and every once in awhile it wouldn't work...sorry, i need to re read my post before i hit submit : )
Originally Posted By Roger55 Perdie, I have heard similar stories about being able to switch passes with others and still be able to enter the parks. The system does not look at fingerprints, it takes a "picture" of your fingers and does a numerical comparison that looks at finger length, structure, etc. So if you and your husband have similarly structured fingers, I can totally see why this happened. Just to share something I have heard. I heard that WDW at one point was having so many issues with people not putting their fingers in the reader the same way each time, so there were a lot of problems even validating people holding their own ticket. They would have to try multiple times before a "match" was made. So I heard that the solution was to "relax" the criteria used by the system to determine a match. This may be why it isn't that unusual to be able to use someone elses ticket with your fingers.
Originally Posted By ssWEDguy I've heard rumors of a new system in the works. Supposed to be able to do a better, faster, simpler bio-reading. (We can make him .... Faster!...Stronger!...) They obviously want the best accuracy they can get, but without slowing down a queue or making it too complex.
Originally Posted By Labuda Cool info there, ss. ANy idea what it'd be? Maybe a handscan? IIRC, that's what we use at Sea World San Antonio with our season passes.
