Originally Posted By perlster The list is all over the web, so I'm not going to repeat all the numbers. The most interesting change is (supposedly) that the parking add-on can no longer be ordered with new APs. [I apologize for posting something actually relevant to Disneyland.]
Originally Posted By Dr Hans Reinhardt I'm way too lazy to do the math. Can someone tell me how much the APs have increased and if the tiers have changed? Curious to get a gauge on whether or not Disney has given passholders another pricing smackdown.
Originally Posted By RoadTrip Silver Dollar City, our local regional park is really an outstanding park. Nice themeing and cleanliness and customer service that rivals and sometimes exceeds Disney. No, it isn't a Disney Park but it is at least as good as Knott's. Annual pass costs $87. Parking is free, but we usually use preferred parking which costs $7.
Originally Posted By Dr Hans Reinhardt "Everyone will keep paying it anyway. Yes overall attendance is strong but I'm curious to know what impact the last AP increase had on that ticket media. I remember it was a pretty steep jump in price and there were quite a few people here saying they could no longer justify the cost of buying one.
Originally Posted By oc_dean <a target="blank" rel="nofollow" href="http://blog.touringplans.com/2015/02/21/disneylands-expensive-ticket-prices-just-got-slightly-more-expensive/">http://blog.touringplans.com/2...pensive/</a> 1- day Tickets (new price/old price): 1-day, 1-park – $99 ($96) 1-day Park Hopper – $155 ($153) Kid’s 1-day, 1-park – $93 ($90) Multi-day Tickets (new price/old price): 2-day- $185 ($178) Kid’s 2-day – $172 ($165) 3-day – $235 ($226) Kid’s 3-day – $224 ($215) 4-day – $260 ($250) Kid’s 4-day – $245 ($235) 5-day – $275 ($266) Kid’s 5-day – $259 ($250) Multi-day ticket park hopper add-on – $40 ($39) Annual Passes (new price/old price): Premier – $1099 ($1029) Premium – $779 ($699) Deluxe – $549 ($519) SoCal – $389 ($379) (available for renewal only) SoCal Select – $299 ($289) Parking will no longer be added to annual passes. “Free” parking will only be included with the Premium pass, everyone else will pay $17. Notice how TWDC didn't just make it an even 100 for a 1 park ticket. That will no doubt come next year ... when ticket prices actually go over into the 3 figures category. THEY ARE TRYING TO AVOID IT! Weird how so many businesses go for the $9.99 .... or $29.99, $9,999 model. AS IF 1 penney or 1 dollar is going to make all the difference in the world.
Originally Posted By CuriousConstance That would suck to have to pay $17 each time one of the southern Ca passholders wanted to go to the parks. I know some of them go several times a week!
Originally Posted By 9oldmen >>Notice how TWDC didn't just make it an even 100 for a 1 park ticket. That will no doubt come next year<< I said this before (maybe on another board) that the price will NEVER be an even $100. The next increase will take the price to $101 or more. It's just "cosmetic". I think they want to avoid those "double zeros" because of what it does psychologically, although I think some of us are pretty disturbed by this already. >>... when ticket prices actually go over into the 3 figures category. THEY ARE TRYING TO AVOID IT! Weird how so many businesses go for the $9.99 .... or $29.99, $9,999 model. AS IF 1 penney or 1 dollar is going to make all the difference in the world. << And after sales tax, it of course won't make a difference in terms of how much money you have to sacrifice, but again, it does make a difference psychologically. Something about seeing that "29" rather than a "30" for instance, even though you will of course be paying MORE than thirty with that sales tax.
Originally Posted By CuriousConstance To me, the biggest sting is the $155 one day park hopper, yikes!!!!!
Originally Posted By oc_dean I think the biggest sting comes from not being able to tack on 'parking' to any lower level AP. This forces people to get the premium. Therefore forcing many to either make the colossal payment upfront, stick it on their credit card, or use Disney's monthly payment plan. (How convenient.) I have a feeling this is going to be the dealbreaker for many people. Or ... as they say ... the final straw that breaks the camels back. If a lower tier AP holder wants to come 2 times a month ... that's 34 dollars a month, and $408 for a year, at 24 visits for the year. Who's going to pay 400 bucks a year in parking, with a lower tier AP? Like the Deluxe. You'd just have to suck it up .. and pay the additional 230 dollars for the premium. Well .... congratulations to TWDC! If they wanted to make a trip to DL, a place for the wealthy ... they succeeded! For everyone else, trying to make a living in 2015, with the ratio of cost of living vs. wages more out of whack than in 1970 ... good luck in saving up for a trip to Walt Disney's Magic Kingdom!
Originally Posted By FerretAfros >>Notice how TWDC didn't just make it an even 100 for a 1 park ticket.<< A 1-day ticket to MK went up to $105 in this same round of updates, while their other 3 parks are now $97 for one day. I have no idea if it's true, but I read online that WDW was pushing for price increases and DLR didn't want to do them yet, but WDW won out >>And after sales tax, it of course won't make a difference...<< I believe that California doesn't charge sales tax on theme park admissions. Florida does, so WDW's rates went up even higher than that >>To me, the biggest sting is the $155 one day park hopper, yikes!!!!!<< I agree. All of the park hoppers are pretty crazy. A 3-day hopper is more than the soCal Select AP. And they wonder why they have such a problem with so many APers in the parks... >>I think the biggest sting comes from not being able to tack on 'parking' to any lower level AP.<< From my understanding, the add-on parking can be renewed if you already have it, but you can't add it on for the first time any more. The pricing has always been pretty similar to getting the next AP level up (DAP + parking was about the same as a PAP), so I would suspect that lots of people have already been caught in that trap. Additionally, if it's a family that always visits together, only one person needs to have parking while the others can continue to have a lower level AP It does sound like they're finally trying to take a stance and attempt to solve DLR's AP parking issues that have been a big problem for about 7-8 years now. It's nice to see how quick and responsive they are...
Originally Posted By perlster I checked this morning. AP prices were as expected and could find no way to add parking.
Originally Posted By FerretAfros For what it's worth, I just checked the international parks this morning. TDR and HKDL 1-day 1-park tickets are both around $64, and DLRP is $89 Really makes you wonder when DL and WDW cost 1.6 times TDR, yet don't deliver as good of a product...
Originally Posted By RoadTrip My guess is they have to spend the extra on lawyers and making sure everything in the resorts complies with all the rules and regulations that the U.S. excels at creating.
Originally Posted By Dr Hans Reinhardt Yep, I'm also thinking operating costs in the US, especially in California, are higher than in Japan.
Originally Posted By SingleParkPassholder "My guess is they have to spend the extra on lawyers and making sure everything in the resorts complies with all the rules and regulations that the U.S. excels at creating." Yeah, that's it.
Originally Posted By RoadTrip That wasn't a slam on lawyers... no need to be defensive. Just recognizing that people in the U.S. love to go after corporations with deep pockets, so I'm sure Disney in the U.S. has to spend a ton of money defending against frivolous law suits. They also need lawyers to research changing ADA and OSHA requirements so they can design new attractions and modify older attractions in compliance with them. Then there is the cost of building to meet that compliance which I'm sure at times is substantial. And yes, I am inclined to think that the costs associated with this in the U.S. are probably substantially higher than overseas.
Originally Posted By Kusin_It "Really makes you wonder when DL and WDW cost 1.6 times TDR, yet don't deliver as good of a product..." Not only do US Disney parks have a glaringly inferior product/service to Tokyo Disney but Tokyo is crazy more expensive to both live and tour compared to both Los Angeles and especially orlando. Orlando Disney and cost of living/tourism compared to Tokyo???!!! Are you kidding me. Super duper big difference. Even Hong Kong Disney pricing is an absolute steal compared to US parks. And Hong Kong has an unbelievably high standard of living and crazy expensive real estate and Rolls Royces all up in there. USA price gouging. Oh ya!
Originally Posted By Dr Hans Reinhardt Price gouging or supply and demand? It wouldn't surprise me to see attendance increase this year at DL and WDW even with the latest raise in admission prices.
Originally Posted By Kusin_It Aaaahhhh how about both? Can't it be both market economics and gouging at the same time? And Tokyo Disney is crazy busy and crowded and the city is way more expensive. Yes USA is gouging too.
