Originally Posted By Yookeroo Looks like I was wrong (and everyone else was right) and there won't be any rockwork on the back of the Racers' mountain. But it doesn't need it. I make a point of check the sight lines from around the Pier and the wall is mostly obstructed. Between buildings, palm trees, poles and light strands, there's probably not a visible contiguous section that's more than 10& of the wall. For the most part, you have to be looking for the wall to really notice it. Maybe needs a few more palm trees. I think the only potential problem is the view from the Wharf. From there you can kind of see the transition from rock to flat. That's my Disney geek report for today.
Originally Posted By Dr Hans Reinhardt I find it very peculiar that Disney isn't making any effort to dress up the rear segments of the mountain that are visible from the Wharf and PP. Sorry, but what I've seen online looks far worse than the power lines or a random hotel in the distance.
Originally Posted By DlandDug For what it's worth, it's an improvement over the random views of the Anaheim Resort District...!
Originally Posted By Yookeroo "I find it very peculiar that Disney isn't making any effort to dress up the rear segments of the mountain that are visible from the Wharf and PP." I don't. It would be a big waste of money. I was there looking at it. If I wasn't looking for the wall, I wouldn't have noticed it at all. "They could paint it to look like a tidal wave coming in." You would have a hard time recognizing it as a tidal wave.
Originally Posted By Manfried Why should they do that to the backside? I mean they havent done much to the backside of a whole bunch of other buildings - Pirates, Indy, Haunted Mansion. And they are all plainly visible from the tram and Downtown Disney.
Originally Posted By Jim in Merced CA <I don't. It would be a big waste of money. I was there looking at it. If I wasn't looking for the wall, I wouldn't have noticed it at all.> That same argument was used to make the decision to not mask the Anaheim Convention Center and Inn at the Park from the inside views of DCA. The justification, after they realized that those ugly views are such an egregious no-no for their own publicized rules for 'Disney Theme Parks', was to say that they were letting some of the 'real' California in. Right. <Why should they do that to the backside? I mean they haven't done much to the backside of a whole bunch of other buildings - Pirates, Indy, Haunted Mansion. And they are all plainly visible from the tram and Downtown Disney.> From the outsides of the parks, it's a different story. The Pirates show building is hardly visible from outside of Disneyland. Or the show building for Haunted Mansion. Also, those two show buildings are very nicely masked from inside the park. And that's the point here I think. And actually, with Indiana Jones, they've gone to a great deal of trouble to 'pretty up' the show building for Indy. It's still fairly ugly, but because it's so close to the tram pick up and drop off and Downtown Disney, they did make the decision to add some decor to the outside. Bottom line -- (at least the way I see the rules of 'Disney Theme Parks') The views inside the parks are first priority. That where the designers are able to control what we see as guests. The transitions between lands still have to work, and the vistas have to remain nice to look at. Outside on Katella -- all bets are off. But if you're inside the park, and looking at an unfinished bunch of steel that is the 'backside' of Carsland. That's not good.
Originally Posted By Dr Hans Reinhardt Thank you Jim. That's exactly what I was trying to say. The current backside of the Cadillac Mountain range facing PP is even worse than any of the above mentioned attractions because it is indeed unfinished. At least Indy and Mansion are just big unidentifiable warehouse buildings visible only from outside the parks - not the hollowed out interior of a fake mountain.
Originally Posted By Jim in Merced CA Thanks Hans. It's nice to know that at least you and Kar2oonMan understand what I'm trying to get across here.
Originally Posted By yamabuki You have to be patient. Still two years away from opening - they'll get around to completing that side of the mountain eventually.
Originally Posted By Dabob2 I get what you're saying too, Hans. My guess (and it's just a guess) is that they won't finish it off 3D, but will try to paint it in such a way that it will work well with the sightlines that do exist within the park. That's something that can be done well into the process (though it would be nice if they did it earlier).
Originally Posted By Manfried The backside of the building will have a basic stucco finish, I am sure. For the part that faces the real streets, that's all it should have.
Originally Posted By Manfried and yamabuki has it right. It is still two years out, so go find something else to complain about.
Originally Posted By Dr Hans Reinhardt "You have to be patient. Still two years away from opening - they'll get around to completing that side of the mountain eventually." Of course, but I think the question is what does "complete" mean in this case? For all we know it is completed. I think it's a reasonable question to ask.
Originally Posted By gadzuux I doubt that they'll just leave it as the hollowed out shell we see now. I also doubt they'll do much more than cover it over and paint it. >> Oh Debbie. << I actually had a Debbie Downer sighting on TV last night. TMZ found her shopping in some LA mall. She seems fine, but I was completely gassed to see her.
Originally Posted By Jim in Merced CA <and yamabuki has it right. It is still two years out, so go find something else to complain about> Here's an idea. Why don't you participate in threads that you want to participate in? If we want to wonder about the future -- based on the shoddy work that's been done in the past for DCA -- doesn't that make sense? Wait -- don't answer that.
Originally Posted By Dabob2 In this instance, Jim, Lasseter seems to be willing to spend plenty on CarsLand. I agree that from Katella it doesn't need to be fancy, but the sections that are visible from within the park should at least be painted nicely.
