Originally Posted By monorailblue Will this be a year that DLR attendance drops measurably? I can only imagine so. For example, as of 2/8 (based on current information), the following will be closed at Disneyland: Gone forever: Big Thunder Ranch facilities Extended closures: Railroad, Fantasmic!, Canoes, Tom Sawyer Island, Columbia, Mark Twain Rehabs: Jungle Cruise, Mansion, Autopia, Splash Mountain With that kind of closure load, I have to think that February / March should see a noticeable decrease in attendance--at least at Disneyland Park. Is DLR immune from any attendance slide? (Also, I don't think Harry Potter at Universal will have any measurable effect on Disneyland attendance, even if Universal's attendance doubled. I laugh at every "Harry Potter Threat to Disneyland" article published. Even if Universal opened 10 new Attractions, they would remain no threat whatever to Disneyland attendance and profitability.)
Originally Posted By ecdc <------- Will not be at Disneyland unless 1) he gets in for free, and 2) is a day forecast for extremely low attendance.
Originally Posted By Bellella I've not gone a year in my life without going to D-land at least once. So I'll probably head back after the Mansion is undecorated. But that'll be it. Although, having to walk around the perimeter of a huge wall most of the time is NOT going to be fun.
Originally Posted By CuriousConstance I don't think it will make any difference in attendance. There is always some point in the year with lots of refurbishments, remember last year before the big 60th festivities? Tons of refurbsishments, but it didn't matter in the grand scheme of things. And most of the long refurbishments aren't "huge" people attractors anyway. Can you think of anyone that would not travel to DL because the River and train is down beside a Disneyaholic?
Originally Posted By monorailblue It is true, but people like me--who is a Disneyholic at heart, but not in practice (because I can't afford it)--will definitely not plan a trip in February or March this year because the refurb schedule is definitely heavy during those times. The entire west side of the park will be Tiki Room, Indy, Pirates, Thunder, and Shooting Gallery. That's it. That paltry number of rides may work elsewhere, but it doesn't work for a countable number of Disneylanders.
Originally Posted By Kar2oonMan I really don't think it will ultimately make much of a difference overall. A significant number of guests consist of "regulars" -- APers who live locally and hang out at the park at least once a week regardless what is going on with various attractions. And even if there is a drop off, mainly from out-of-towners postponing the expense of a Disneyland vacation until all the new stuff opens, it won't feel less crowded since the usable areas of the park will be a bit more compressed until all that construction is complete.
Originally Posted By CuriousConstance This is what I've been able to find on Splash Mountain closing: "Splash Mountain – closes February 8 for refurbishment. Reopening date to be determined, but after February 14." Doesn't sound like it'll be down for very long.
Originally Posted By CuriousConstance And not at the same time as Haunted Mansion anyway: "Haunted Mansion – closed January 11–22 to remove the Haunted Mansion Holiday overlay" So, I don't think your list is entirely accurate.
Originally Posted By CuriousConstance Here's a list: "2016 •Jungle Cruise – closes January 11 to remove the Jingle Cruise overlay, and for extensive refurbishment. Reopening date not official, but expected to be after April 3. •Haunted Mansion – closed January 11–22 to remove the Haunted Mansion Holiday overlay. •Autopia – closes January 11 for extensive refurbishment. Reopening date not official, but expected to be after April 3. •Disneyland Railroad – closes January 11 due to the Star Wars Land-related construction around the Rivers of America. Expected to reopen spring 2017. •Davy Crockett's Explorer Canoes – closes January 11 due to the Star Wars Land-related construction around the Rivers of America. Expected to reopen spring 2017. •Fantasmic! – on hiatus effective January 11 due to the Star Wars Land-related construction around the Rivers of America. Expected to return summer 2017. •Pirates Lair on Tom Sawyer Island – closes January 11 due to the Star Wars Land-related construction around the Rivers of America. Expected to reopen spring 2017. •Sailing Ship Columbia – closes January 11 due to the Star Wars Land-related construction around the Rivers of America. Expected to reopen spring 2017. •Mark Twain Riverboat – closes January 11 due to the Star Wars Land-related construction around the Rivers of America. Expected to reopen spring 2017. •"it's a small world" – closes January 25 – February 4 to remove the holiday overlay. •Splash Mountain – closes February 8 for refurbishment. Reopening date to be determined, but after February 14. •20th Century Music Company – closes January 25 – February 11 for refurbishment. •Starcade – closed indefinitely."
Originally Posted By FerretAfros >>And even if there is a drop off...it won't feel less crowded since the usable areas of the park will be a bit more compressed until all that construction is complete.<< I agree. I also wouldn't be surprised if Disney reduced the number of guests they admit into the park at any given time, with so much of it closed. If they're close to reaching that number daily, then perhaps the annual attendance will have a noticeable dip, but I suspect that most days will just feel busier because the same number of bodies have less space >>Starcade – closed indefinitely<< Why don't they just officially remove it from the attraction roster? They're not fooling anybody, it isn't being refurbished or upgraded; it's a stockroom for the store, and can be clearly seen from the Space Mountain queue. Of all the things that DL diehards get upset about, I don't think closing the Starcade would be one of them, unless they drag it out in purgatory for endless years And there's going to be a really lonely week at Winnie the Pooh and the Critter Country shops while the river is drained and Splash Mountain is getting refurbished. Thank goodness HM is supposed to have reopened by that point, or it would be a total no-man's land!
Originally Posted By monorailblue When it comes to closures, I'm glad to have overstated the case. However, the opening of Splash is inconsistently reported. From a non-MiceAge source: {{Splash Mountain closes February 8 for refurbishment. The reopening date has not been announced, but the folks at TouringPlans.com say the refurbishment will last into mid-April.}}
Originally Posted By CuriousConstance "And there's going to be a really lonely week at Winnie the Pooh and the Critter Country shops while the river is drained and Splash Mountain is getting refurbished." Do you think ANYONE will make the long trek back there just for Pooh? I feel sad for the little guy. If my family was there, I know we would. My husband loves that ride, lol. I hope that Critter Country is opened up with the new Star Wars land and it's no longer a dead end back there.
Originally Posted By doombuggy After going on splash the other day It is in desperate need of TLC. Lots of burned out lights, Many characters missing.
Originally Posted By doombuggy Critter country isn't anywhere near Star Wars land. They would have to make a trail that follows the railroad tracks And I just don't see them doing that. I wish they would put a temporary walkway on to the railroad tracks so you could at least still walk to see the dinosaurs, Grand Canyon.
Originally Posted By Dabob2 <After going on splash the other day It is in desperate need of TLC. Lots of burned out lights, Many characters missing. > The weirdest thing in December was the female geese in the finale showboat scene were absolutely stationary, with their eyes wide open and staring. It was actually kinda creepy.
Originally Posted By FerretAfros >>Do you think ANYONE will make the long trek back there just for Pooh? I feel sad for the little guy.<< Probably not; the last time Splash Mountain had a big refurbishment, they just walled off Critter Country completely, since they figured it wasn't worth staffing Pooh and the shops. >>My husband loves that ride, lol.<< Awww! I thought you said he didn't like anything at Disneyland! I'm glad he's finally seeing the light
Originally Posted By FerretAfros >>Critter country isn't anywhere near Star Wars land.<< We don't really know the extents of the land, so it very well could be. There would be a long-ish walk between the two, but certainly no longer than the existing Big Thunder Trail. If they found a way to take the path through the woods (getting over/around the Pooh show building could be a real challenge), I think it could be a really nice relief valve for that side of the park The new Avatar land at DAK will have a second path along Discovery River that will link it up to the Africa section of the park. It will be a *much* longer walk without anything noteworthy along the way, but it will help to complete the outer ring surrounding the park
Originally Posted By darcy-becker >>Do you think ANYONE will make the long trek back there just for Pooh? I feel sad for the little guy.<< Families with small children probably will.
Originally Posted By doombuggy Re 16 Disney has already shown the footprint of Star Wars land will be.It's only pushing into the backstage area behind toontown It's not going clear over to critter country
Originally Posted By FerretAfros ^^Have they? I didn't think I had seen anything official from Disney other than the concept art (which could be anywhere) and a general description of where the land will be located. All the maps and graphics showing locations that I've seen are created by fans who are guessing the extents of the project
