Originally Posted By Mr X <a href="http://edition.cnn.com/2011/POLITICS/05/07/bin.laden.donilon/index.html?hpt=T2" target="_blank">http://edition.cnn.com/2011/PO...l?hpt=T2</a> I kinda thought so too, given the circumstances. GUTSY CALL for the CiC, to say the least. If it blew up in his face, he'd be facing the music right now! Just sayin... (for the morons, that means "HE DID IT!"...so you can't take the credit away...if "HE FAILED!", the you can give all the blame to him, too)
Originally Posted By Labuda How DARE you say HE did it! We all know it was Bush! Just ask Sarah Palin!
Originally Posted By Donny I guess what people need to understand is that you can only blame Bush for the bad economy.Bush cant get credit for Gitmo,The Patriot Act,Homeland security ,Advance interrogation methods or anything else which helped get Osama
Originally Posted By Dabob2 None of that helped to get Osama, except in the most torturous (pun intended) scenarios
Originally Posted By skinnerbox Which flavor of GOP Kool-Aid do you prefer, Donny? Gullible Grape, Clueless Cherry, or Senseless Strawberry?
Originally Posted By TomSawyer What helped to get bin Laden was a president who told his intelligence chief to make that his #1 priority, compared to the guy who said that he didn't really care where bin Laden was six months after 9/11.
Originally Posted By Mr X ***Gitmo,The Patriot Act,Homeland security*** Oh, no. You are wrong Donny. I give Bush FULL credit for all these things.
Originally Posted By Dabob2 <Which flavor of GOP Kool-Aid do you prefer, Donny? Gullible Grape, Clueless Cherry, or Senseless Strawberry?> OT, I know, but that just brought to mind Pillsbury's attempt to horn in on the Kool-aid market from the 60's/70's. Anyone remember Funny Face? <a href="http://theimaginaryworld.com/ffpac.html#colorbg" target="_blank">http://theimaginaryworld.com/f...#colorbg</a> Featuring Choo Choo Cherry (taking the place of the unfortunate "Chinese Cherry" - click on the link), Goofy Grape, etc. etc.
Originally Posted By davewasbaloo >>>Bush cant get credit for Gitmo,The Patriot Act,Homeland security ,Advance interrogation methods <<< wow, you are proud of those things? I am immensely embarrassed by them and they are many of the reasons why I felt Bush was evil and the worst President in US history (besides the fact that the first time around he wasn't even democratically elected).
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Originally Posted By Donny It's funny President Obama who ran on closing Gitmo and the Patriot Act has kept both very much alive.
Originally Posted By Mr X ***Sadly it does not surprise me*** Nor I. What I find amusing is the fact that some like Donny here consider them "points of pride" that they somehow think Obama would want to "steal" from the Bush legacy. Nope. Bush owns them. Forever. ***It's funny President Obama who ran on closing Gitmo and the Patriot Act has kept both very much alive*** I agree and I hate it. Granted, he ran into fierce opposition (let's even call it total stonewalling), but somehow as CiC he still needs to find a way to get rid of these horrible things or that will be a black mark on HIS legacy as well.
Originally Posted By Dabob2 It's not funny, it's sad. And one of my disappointments. But show me a president who kept all his campaign promises.
Originally Posted By Donny "besides the fact that the first time around he wasn't even democratically elected" ahhhhhhhhh the democrat version of the birther movement.
Originally Posted By wahooskipper Maybe instead of cowtowing to "fierce opposition" Obama saw priviledged information that made him make an intelligent decision to retain Gitmo, the Patriot Act, etc. I mean, if we can give him credit for making the right decision on bin Laden why can't we give him credit for changing his mind on a few of these items once he got into office? I haven't seen a story yet that said the enhanced interrogation tactics played NO part in the eventual killing of bin Laden. I've seen many stories arguing how much of a role enhanced interrogation played.
Originally Posted By Mr X ***"besides the fact that the first time around he wasn't even democratically elected" ahhhhhhhhh the democrat version of the birther movement*** No, because it has plenty of facts to back it up. You right wingers should be outraged by the fact that it took ACTIVIST JUDGES in order for Bush to win, even though 500,000 more of your fellow citizens wanted the other guy. These facts are not in dispute. Nothing birther about it. Try again.
Originally Posted By Mr X AND, even for the judges, it was a 5/4 split I believe. So it really came down to only ONE person who decided the Presidency when you think about it. One Sandra Day O'Conner, who admitted that she was hoping to retire soon under a Republican administration. Yay, Democracy!