Originally Posted By AutoPost This topic is for Discussion of: <a href="http://www.laughingplace.com/w/news/2013/09/13/video-peek-inside-princess-fairytale-hall/" target="_blank"><b>9/13/13: Video: Peek Inside Princess Fairytale Hall</b></a>
Originally Posted By Dr Hans Reinhardt Super corny, but cute video. I wonder how the Hall compares to the ones in Anaheim and Paris.
Originally Posted By FerretAfros I'm surprised that Cinderella, a maid-turned-professional-smiler, knows how to write! : ) While it was really cheesy, I liked how the Imagineers hid from Cinderella. It looks like this is a well-executed location, even if I would have rather had something more substantial in its place
Originally Posted By TDLFAN Ok while the video makes me puke, the indoor sets are at least nicer than the old Snow ride, but the imagineers in it are as flat as the old props in the previous ride. And Cindy.. remember dear, it is NOT your Castle. It's Charming's. You just got lucky. Otherwise you'd be at the All-stars cleaning rooms and safes.
Originally Posted By CuriousConstance Looks super nice inside. I just realized I'll probably never see the inside of one of these princess meet and greet areas because now that my daughter has outgrown it, I would never wait in those lines.
Originally Posted By TDLFAN ^^^^exactly why these greet and photo shops are a disgrace to Walt's original intentions of what his park should be for: bratty kids and underpaid parents to have fun TOGETHER.
Originally Posted By Witches of Morva ORDDU: If only they would allow the Disney princes to meet and greet along with their princesses. THAT'S what would really inspire me to wait in those long lines. Much as I admire the girls I admire their gorgeous hunks even more! I'm tired of all the excuses Aurora gives as she explains why Prince Phillip isn't at her side. "Oh, he's off riding his horse." (Any man who prefers the company of a horse over a beautiful woman hasn't yet met ME!!!)
Originally Posted By Dr Hans Reinhardt "exactly why these greet and photo shops are a disgrace to Walt's original intentions of what his park should be for: bratty kids and underpaid parents to have fun TOGETHER." Just curious, how would you solve the problem of guest demand to interact with these characters if you were running the parks?
Originally Posted By Witches of Morva ORDDU: That's a very good question. In the meantime I have one of my own. Why can't there be meetings and greetings with a certain doctor around here whenever he's at the parks? I'd be willing to stand in line for him! ORGOCH: Yeah, I'll just bet ya would, sister! I can see the whole thing now! Yerself and Connie fightin' over Fast Passes ta see who could git a check up first!!!
Originally Posted By Dr Hans Reinhardt The Dr. Hans Reinhardt Magical Hug Zone would be a magical mystical journey through time and love. Definitely an E ticket.
Originally Posted By sjhym333 I don't use the meet and greet things at all but I understand why they are popular. I have no problems with them in general. I am more frustrated when they close a dark ride to put one in when they could have easily used some other empty space or used the new Tangled area to include a meet and greet space.
Originally Posted By Witches of Morva ORGOCH: Gotcha! So yer the kind that likes his meet ' greets tangled up!
Originally Posted By Witches of Morva ORDDU: As for you, Dr. Hans, I'm ready, willing and able to meet and greet you ANY time of the day or night. Just say the word and we'll create a kissing booth of our very own inside any park you want! (Eat your heart out CuriousConstance...)
Originally Posted By CarolinaDisneyDad I agree with sjhym333. They could have put the meet an greet anywhere. It is a shame that they took out a ride that all ages could enjoy. We rode it every time we were in the parks. I see the need for meet and greets. I just wish there could be more spontaneity in catching a character signing autographs unexpectedly. When my kids were smaller and were beginning to tire at the end of our trip sometimes we would designate a day as autograph day and just roam the parks doing nothing but collecting pics and signatures. It was a fun relaxing day.
Originally Posted By Dr Hans Reinhardt "It is a shame that they took out a ride that all ages could enjoy." Let's be serious. I really don't believe that any age would enjoy Snow White's Adventures. Yes, the new hug zone is specifically for parents with young girls, but the ride it replaced wasn't far from being the same thing. It's not like the new meet & greet replaced Space Mountain.
Originally Posted By TDLFAN That's only ^^your opinion, which in my eyes is as invalid as your general view that "Disney can do no wrong", but because I know a certain 52 year old man who dragged my a** to the Snow White ride every time we visited the MK together, leads me to believe you are wrong. So yes, the ride did appeal to an ageless demographic, even if I personally didn't care for the cheap way it was produced and executed and the horrible boarding set up they had that caused severe backups inside the ride. So for those reasons more than storyline, I personally am glad it's gone, but I would have preferred an intensive rehab/update to bring it to 21st century standards as opposed to what they have done with that location now. In regards to your other post, I will bite and answer your question *from a money making point of view*. After all Disney Co loves profits. So.. You asked, <<<Just curious, how would you solve the problem of guest demand to interact with these characters if you were running the parks?<<< Call me old school but my most memorable moments at the Magic Kingdom was when out of the blue I would run into character in a totally unexpected way. That still happens at Tokyo Disneyland/Sea (right Brad?). And it's (as Donna Summer used to say) "Magic... purely.. Magic." I would return the characters to the streets as where they used to be back in the glory days. Now I do understand that it's the 21st century, so to resolve the problem of guest "demand" if that's really an issue here, then I would SELL blocks of time for people to have appointments to meet their favorite Princesses at a certain time. A royal appointment so to speak..FOR A NOMINAL FEE. Want your little brat to have a nice personalized picture with Princess Frump?, then PAY UP, and the pictures are included with the price of the appointment, and the guest can chose the location for the photo and greet..such as the Castle Suite, or castle garden near the Swan Boat landing. etc... Don't want to pay? then be on the lookout and ready to snap that camera because the harder it is to snap that photo with your favorite character, the more special and memorable it will be. BTW.. I would charge extra for fastpass privileges too just like Universal does. Charge the guests for all they've got if you want special treatment. Heck.. let's go back to the A B C D E system and pay up extra for rides too!!!!! MUHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!
Originally Posted By oc_dean >>"It is a shame that they took out a ride that all ages could enjoy." Let's be serious. I really don't believe that any age would enjoy Snow White's Adventures. Yes, the new hug zone is specifically for parents with young girls, but the ride it replaced wasn't far from being the same thing. It's not like the new meet & greet replaced Space Mountain. << I can't speak for WDW's version .. as the last and only time I ever went on it was in 1992, but every time I go to DL and either ride or take a look at the crowds for it's version ... I see a wide demographic of people - male, female ... families ... couples .. singles. I can't buy that "Snow White is just as geared to what replaced it" jargon. Sorry, I don't believe that at all. Sadly, what's done is done. Fantasyland only ever had 3 "bus bar" dark rides. To Disneyland's 5. Now they are down to 2. Redundant to have kept 2 Snow White rides? OK. But you know how many animated features under Disney's belt would have loved to have had that dark ride facility? The number are staggering. Pick from the Golden Age. Pick from the Menken/Ashman era. Pick from the newer era. But it's easy to see what happened. TDO was set to keep Fantasyland's budget to a certain amount. Spreading out that butter across .. and making it "thin" in some places. Those "thin" places .. extend to keeping many parts of Toontown Fair. And gutting a valuable "bus bar" ride facility for a Hall. And doing nothing to a good chunk of the rest of Fantasyland. Considering how long it had been since WDW's magic kingdom park had something significant ... they should have padded the budget a bit better .. to put the Meet & Greet somewhere else - (WDW has no shortage of space, unlike it's Anaheim cousin!) ... and revamped that ride facility by picking an animated film that has yet to have it's first Disney Theme Park attraction. But no. I don't have a lot of respect for TDO!
Originally Posted By Dr Hans Reinhardt "That's only ^^your opinion, which in my eyes is as invalid as your general view that "Disney can do no wrong", but because I know a certain 52 year old man who dragged my a** to the Snow White ride every time we visited the MK together, leads me to believe you are wrong." For the record, I've seen people in their 50s waiting in line for character meet & greets too. "even if I personally didn't care for the cheap way it was produced and executed and the horrible boarding set up they had that caused severe backups inside the ride. So for those reasons more than storyline, I personally am glad it's gone, but I would have preferred an intensive rehab/update to bring it to 21st century standards as opposed to what they have done with that location now." It was a classic busbar dark ride and not meant to be an experience like Indiana Jones or Mystic Manor. If they were to build one from scratch today it probably wouldn't be all that different. "Now I do understand that it's the 21st century, so to resolve the problem of guest "demand" if that's really an issue here, then I would SELL blocks of time for people to have appointments to meet their favorite Princesses at a certain time. A royal appointment so to speak..FOR A NOMINAL FEE. Want your little brat to have a nice personalized picture with Princess Frump?, then PAY UP, and the pictures are included with the price of the appointment, and the guest can chose the location for the photo and greet..such as the Castle Suite, or castle garden near the Swan Boat landing. etc..." So basically you'd do exactly what Disney is doing now but slap on a charge for the experience. "I can't buy that "Snow White is just as geared to what replaced it" jargon. Sorry, I don't believe that at all." I never specifically said that it was. I said it wasn't far from attracting the same demographic, and it isn't.
Originally Posted By CarolinaDisneyDad I don't look at it like the coaster is replacing SWSA. They are too different. You can not like the way it was done but I know from my own kids that they didn't care. It was done well enough to make them remember and relive the movie and who couldn't love the dwarf figures. I don't know anyone (other than on LP) who said that they were glad to see it go. (at this point I stick my fingers in my ears and go na na na na na na na I can't hear you na na na na na )
Originally Posted By danyoung I saw that video a few days ago when they posted it on the Disney Parks Blog. I commented that while I didn't have any thoughts on the Hall itself, I was amazed at the junior high quality of this incredibly lame video. Of course, my comment was stricken from the blog a couple hours later . . .
