Originally Posted By CarolinaDisneyDad <<<I haven't been over there in at least five years now ... closing Aunt Polly's (yet another of my favorites) and letting a broken windmill sit for years were the last straws ... wonder if the caves still reek of magical urine.>>> I haven't noticed a urine smell. It would be nice if Polly's was open. That would be a great place to sit in a rocker and have an ice cream. With no food offering there is no draw for adults without kids. BTW one year, maybe 2003, we wandered into a saloon near liberty tree and there was a show on stage. Haven't seen it since. There doesn't seem to be anything in that building as I remember it. Am I remembering correctly. Seems like we might have had ice cream there too.
Originally Posted By davewasbaloo The loss of the shows in the Diamond Horseshoe at WDW and the Lucky Nugget in DLP are some more reasons why I get angry at modern Disney.
Originally Posted By Spirit of 74 <<I like Capt. Morgan Private Stock. Brother left a bottle at bobbelee9's, I saw it on the counter a few days ago!>> Well ... it's likely all gone now! Doesn't she just sit at the computer drinking and posting until she passes out? ~Disney's New Best Kept Secret: $9.99 Stock Coming Soon!~
Originally Posted By Spirit of 74 <<I haven't noticed a urine smell. It would be nice if Polly's was open. That would be a great place to sit in a rocker and have an ice cream. With no food offering there is no draw for adults without kids.>> It was always a wonderful place to sit on the porch after an hour or so of exploring and chow down on chicken or a basic sandwich and lemonade ... and they killed it because WDW's 'leadership' team is all about dumbing down the WDW experience and taking away all of the little details that made the place what it was. Instead they believe timeshares and marketing campaigns are the way to go ... and sadly so does Bob Iger. So much detail ... texture ... color ... has been removed from WDW and MK is the worst because it is the oldest park and where the magic all began in Central Florida. <<BTW one year, maybe 2003, we wandered into a saloon near liberty tree and there was a show on stage. Haven't seen it since. There doesn't seem to be anything in that building as I remember it. Am I remembering correctly. Seems like we might have had ice cream there too.>> The Diamond Horseshoe Review was a very popular, high quality, western dance/comedy/music show with a unionized work force of professionals. It was killed in 2002 for no reason other than to save money and cut quality. It was replaced with a foamhead show that lasted about six month. That was in turn replaced by a foamhead meet and greet. Since then, the facility is used at busy times as a food service location (usually buffets when DDP is free and at holiday times). ~Disney's New Best Kept Secret: $9.99 Stock Coming Soon!~
Originally Posted By CarolinaDisneyDad What a shame. We enjoyed that show. I'm not sure that Disney realizes that the shows are just as important as the rides. The same show done by live performers is different every time you see it whereas a ride is always the same. I love the rides but live shows with comedy and dancing are important too.
Originally Posted By bobbelee9 <<I like Capt. Morgan Private Stock. Brother left a bottle at bobbelee9's, I saw it on the counter a few days ago!>> It's still intact. It was in the freezer for a couple years, tastes like cough medicine to me. <<Doesn't she just sit at the computer drinking and posting until she passes out?>> I almost wish! I've been od-ing on DayQuil the last 3 days, so didn't dare have a glass of Reisling with supper. I was in bed by 7:30 last night, and it probably won't be much later than that tonight. Happy, I have a phone # for you for Locks for Love.
Originally Posted By A Happy Haunt <<I like Capt. Morgan Private Stock. Brother left a bottle at bobbelee9's, I saw it on the counter a few days ago!>> Well ... it's likely all gone now! Doesn't she just sit at the computer drinking and posting until she passes out?>> Finally, a clever post!!
Originally Posted By A Happy Haunt <<Tomorrow night?>> Tony the Tool Man is working in S. Boston & has a loooong commute home.. You could call me..this thread is about naps..I took one this afternoon since I was up late watching Lost last night. (get the Disney tie-in)
Originally Posted By bobbelee9 Take-out for the Binford Man. We did take-out at the Deli in DDT, when I got back to my room, the food was still very warm. But I didn't fall asleep.
Originally Posted By danyoung >...WDW's 'leadership' team is all about dumbing down the WDW experience and taking away all of the little details that made the place what it was.< My friend Spirit, it's hyperbole like this that makes me doubt your sanity. There isn't a single disney executive who has ever said "Hey, let's dumb down the WDW experience and take out all the little details that make the place what it is". I am convinced that their main concern is money. And their main way to keep that flowing is to cut services and quality and menu items to the point where they're still making money and people are still flocking to the parks. Now, their determination of where that magic confluence of cutbacks and customer satisfaction is is completely different from mine and yours. But while they definitely want to make money, they also would be stupid if they were INTENTIONALLY making decisions to tick off the customers.
Originally Posted By Spirit of 74 Danny ... when you take hyberbole as 100% fact then I doubt your sanity. Of course, I don't believe ANYONE at WDW says ''Hey, let's dumb down the WDW experience and take out all the little details that make the place what it is.'' But that's the result of their actions. It's kind of like a doctor who misdiagnoses a patient or mistreats them and they wind up seriously injured, maimed or dead. That was never the goal, but it's the result just the same. The goal is all about money ...usually their own, which is all tied in with the numbers they can produce. If they thought they could do it by raising quality and adding details, then they'd likely do it. But that's not the business model they are following. It's all about cutting, Danny ... and it's been that way since the mid-late 1990s ... through great times, good times, bad times ... doesn't matter ... it's always cutting 'fat' ... and that 'fat' has never been in the exec suites (at least until recently) or with consulting contracts. It's always cuts that wind up affecting guests and cast ...
Originally Posted By wahooskipper Nap locations...right? Hall of Presidents, Carousel of Progress, Breast Feeding locations (for the women), It's a Small World (if a companion will provide a shoulder and you can tune out the song).
Originally Posted By MPierce >> There isn't a single disney executive who has ever said "Hey, let's dumb down the WDW experience and take out all the little details that make the place what it is". << They may not have said it, but they sure have done it.
Originally Posted By danyoung ME: >And their main way to keep that flowing is to cut services and quality and menu items...< SPIRIT: >It's all about cutting, Danny...< Hmmm - seems like we're saying the same things! Hyperbole always bothers me. I don't want to get into a political discussion, so please, nobody react to this. But I hate it when Rush will say things like "The Democratic Party wants to keep you scared and poor and freaking out - that's how they maintain control!" Now, you might lean Republican or Democrat, but you can't seriously think that anyone in government wants to keep people broke and scared. It's ridiculous rabble rousing to make an extreme point. I just wish people could speak the facts, or at least their rational understanding of the facts, without the hyperbole. But that's just me . . .
Originally Posted By danyoung Oh, and in case anybody's new, Spirit & I are buds, and never take our sniping too seriously. So, am I gonna see you between April 23rd & the 29th in Florida?
Originally Posted By MPierce >> Now, you might lean Republican or Democrat, but you can't seriously think that anyone in government wants to keep people broke and scared. << It seems to be the common practice in a lot of third world countries, so it's not necessarily hyperbole then.
