Originally Posted By ToonKirby The American Film Institute has revealed the theme for this year's annual "AFI's 100 Years ... 100 Movies" program: "AFI's 10 Top 10". The top ten movies of all time in ten different genres -- animation, fantasy, romantic comedies, science fiction, western, gangster, sports, courtroom drama, mystery and epic -- will be revealed in a television special this June on CBS. Fifty films from each category have been nominated on the official ballot. <a href="http://www.afi.com/tvevents/100years/10top10.aspx" target="_blank">http://www.afi.com/tvevents/10 0years/10top10.aspx</a> - kch
Originally Posted By ToonKirby Here's the 50 nominated films: ALADDIN ALICE IN WONDERLAND AMERICAN POP AN AMERICAN TAIL ANTZ THE ARISTOCATS BAMBI BEAUTY AND THE BEAST A BUG'S LIFE CARS CHARLOTTE'S WEB CINDERELLA CORPSE BRIDE DUMBO FANTASIA FINDING NEMO HAPPY FEET THE HUNCHBACK OF NOTRE DAME ICE AGE THE INCREDIBLES THE IRON GIANT THE JUNGLE BOOK LADY AND THE TRAMP THE LION KING THE LITTLE MERMAID MADAGASCAR THE MANY ADVENTURES OF WINNIE THE POOH MONSTER HOUSE MONSTERS, INC. MULAN THE NIGHTMARE BEFORE CHRISTMAS 101 DALMATIANS PETER PAN PINOCCHIO POCAHONTAS THE POLAR EXPRESS THE RESCUERS ROBIN HOOD ROBOTS THE SECRET OF NIMH SHREK SHREK 2 SLEEPING BEAUTY SNOW WHITE AND THE SEVEN DWARFS SOUTH PARK: BIGGER LONGER & UNCUT THE SWORD IN THE STONE TARZAN TOY STORY TOY STORY 2 WAKING LIFE I've seen all but one. 33 are Disney.
Originally Posted By DAR If South Park were to make it what are they going to show about two seconds?
Originally Posted By ToonKirby Other Disney films in the other genres: Fantasy: THE CHRONICLES OF NARNIA: THE LION, THE WITCH AND THE WARDROBE MARY POPPINS PIRATES OF THE CARIBBEAN: THE CURSE OF THE BLACK PEARL SPLASH (also in Romantic Comedy) WHO FRAMED ROGER RABBIT Sci Fi: TRON Sports: COOL RUNNINGS THE MIGHTY DUCKS MIRACLE
Originally Posted By FerretAfros Interesting to see which ones didn't make it to the list: Saludos Amigos The Three Caballeros Make Mine Music Fun and Fancy Free Melody Time The Adventures Of Ichabod And Mr. Toad The Fox And The Hound The Black Cauldron The Great Mouse Detective Oliver & Company The Rescuers Down Under Hercules Fantasia 2000 The Emperor's New Groove Atlantis: The Lost Empire Lilo And Stitch Treasure Planet Brother Bear Home On The Range Chicken Little All Pixar features except Ratatouille (which is probably because it's too recent) made the list as well. While I've seen most of them, there are definately a couple that I've never even heard of before (America Pop, Waking Life). I wonder how much of it was decided on by actual quality of the movie, and how much was getting diversity (was Robots really better than some of the ones left off? Not IMO)
Originally Posted By TheRedhead I'm all for diversity, but Corpse Bride??? These lists are fun but silly. They end up being an exercise in "balance." Snow White will be number one, even though half the list is better than it. And Waking Life is a great movie.
Originally Posted By mawnck American Pop - Ralph Bakshi multi-generational epic about a musical family. Doesn't belong on there, and isn't anywhere near Bakshi's best. (But Fritz the Cat was X-rated, so maybe that had something to do with it.) Waking Life - Rotoscoped artfilm from a couple years ago. OK, maybe. I take it from this list that foreign films are not eligible, otherwise I'd have to open a can of whoop-tush. Other flicks that are more deserving IMHO, from a nominating committee who obviously doesn't realize that there were other studios besides Disney before 1987: Gulliver's Travels Mr. Bug Goes to Town Gay Purr-ee Mad Monster Party (hey, if Charlotte's Web is on there...) The Phantom Tollbooth Heavy Traffic Coonskin (but they'd never live it down) Raggedy Ann and Andy The Last Unicorn (perhaps too outsourced?) The Brave Little Toaster Rover Dangerfield anything by the Hubleys anything by Bill Plympton And WHERE IN THE HECK IS LILO AND STITCH? It's clearly superior to at least 2/3 of that list. The rest of FerretAfros's list, I agree are borderline at best. But really, ROBIN HOOD? MADAGASCAR? SOUTH PARK? ROBOTS? Why not go whole hog and honor Return to Neverland, Hoodwinked and Eight Crazy Nights? Sheesh.
Originally Posted By markymouse I know this isn't the world's most meaningful exercise, but my choices from that list would have to be: Admittedly, I shamelessly remove the ones I don't know. And yes, Lilo and Stitch is as good as half of these. First cut: ALADDIN BAMBI BEAUTY AND THE BEAST CARS CHARLOTTE'S WEB - assuming its the newer cgi version CINDERELLA FANTASIA FINDING NEMO HAPPY FEET THE INCREDIBLES THE IRON GIANT THE LION KING THE LITTLE MERMAID MADAGASCAR - not that its great but it is, after Shrek, the best "of its type" MONSTERS, INC. THE NIGHTMARE BEFORE CHRISTMAS 101 DALMATIANS PETER PAN PINOCCHIO THE POLAR EXPRESS - for its uniqueness SHREK SHREK 2 SLEEPING BEAUTY SNOW WHITE AND THE SEVEN DWARFS TARZAN TOY STORY TOY STORY 2 The next cut: ALADDIN BAMBI BEAUTY AND THE BEAST CARS CINDERELLA FANTASIA - overrated but certainly an important movie FINDING NEMO HAPPY FEET THE INCREDIBLES THE LION KING THE LITTLE MERMAID MONSTERS, INC. THE NIGHTMARE BEFORE CHRISTMAS - not my cup of tea, but I have to pay it a certain respect PETER PAN SHREK SNOW WHITE AND THE SEVEN DWARFS TARZAN TOY STORY TOY STORY 2 and my top ten: BEAUTY AND THE BEAST CINDERELLA FANTASIA FINDING NEMO THE LION KING THE LITTLE MERMAID THE NIGHTMARE BEFORE CHRISTMAS PETER PAN SHREK SNOW WHITE AND THE SEVEN DWARFS TOY STORY TOY STORY 2 Just my two cents worth. yes, I know that's 12 or so, but I was hoping no one would bother to count.
Originally Posted By basil fan Gay Purr-ee is a great film. Basil of Baker Street www.whatsitsgalore.com/basil/bakerst.html
Originally Posted By mawnck >>CHARLOTTE'S WEB - assuming its the newer cgi version<< Nope. It's not. AFI thinks that Hanna-Barbera is better than Lilo and Stitch.
Originally Posted By markymouse I haven't seen the classic Charlotte's Web but we recently saw the CGI version, and I thought it was awesome. Not animated by there definition now that I think about it. I can't help but notice none of the 70s Lord of the Rings / Hobbit movies are listed. No surprise there. What a lost opportunity they were.
Originally Posted By DlandDug I would have at least nominated Phantom Tollbooth and Gulliver's Travels. (And yes, Gay Purree is charming.) But Shrek 2? Blech.
Originally Posted By alexbook >>>>CHARLOTTE'S WEB - assuming its the newer cgi version<< Nope. It's not. AFI thinks that Hanna-Barbera is better than Lilo and Stitch.<< Probably the best thing Hanna-Barbera ever did. I don't mind it being on the list.
Originally Posted By mawnck >>Probably the best thing Hanna-Barbera ever did. I don't mind it being on the list.<< Oh, absolutely. But it was in spite of the animation, not because of it. >>"The Hobbit" animated movie was a TV movie.<< And still better than some of the titles on the list. Animated in Japan, though. Come to think of it, was any of Charlotte's Web sent out-of-country, or had HB not started that yet?
Originally Posted By threeundertwo I'll defend Robots. And I would add the Raggedy Ann and Andy movie, some great animation talent worked on that. It's a bit bizarre though. My kids love "The Last Unicorn" and "Quest for Camelot." I can't figure out what it is about those two that's so appealing.
Originally Posted By christiemarsh88 <<<I'm all for diversity, but Corpse Bride???>>> I think the Corpse Bride is actually one of the best films on this list. (Disney films aside). Actually, I think it's better than a few of the Disney films listed. It's a really unique twist on the formulaic "love at first sight" premise so rampant in animation. TheRedhead, weren't you the one who made fun of "The Producers" a while back? If you were, I may just stop talking to you. What are you gonna go after next? "Casablanca"? "The Godfather?" "Citizen Kane?" (Actually, I probably wouldn't give you a hard time about Citizen Kane.)
Originally Posted By TheRedhead christie, you'd better sit down... I'll gladly go after "Casablanca." I don't mean to give you a heart attack, but I've always hated it, and never could understand its appeal. But there are plenty of movies that this country loves and reveres that I'll never get - "Shrek" being one of the biggest, and one which will probably be in AFI's top ten. Often I am the cheese, and I stand alone. I actually think that "Corpse Bride" might be my least favorite animated film in the last decade. Sorry. I hated it. It becomes especially annoying to me that it was put ton this list and Lilo and Stitch (my favorite animated film) wasn't.
Originally Posted By u k fan I'd gladly go to the movies with you, TheRedhead. L&S is a huge omission from this list and I've never understood the appeal of Shrek. I haven't seen enough of The Corpse Bride to comment and I agree that Snow White will probably be on the list despite the fact that there are at least 10 "better" (IMHO) movies on the list!!!
Originally Posted By christiemarsh88 :- 0 <--------Look how far you made my jaw drop, TheRedhead! That's okay. I'm just giving you a hard time. (For what it's worth, though, I'm not a huge L&S fan. )
