Originally Posted By Darkbeer And you thought Al's comments about DCA were tough... <a href="http://www.miceage.com/allutz/al110306a.htm" target="_blank">http://www.miceage.com/allutz/ al110306a.htm</a> >>The endless bureaucracy in Orlando is mind-boggling, and the waste on departments that no paying customer would ever encounter is stomach churning. The end result is major attractions that creak and groan through their 35-year-old routines without a hardware upgrade in sight, park holiday decorations that appear to have been stolen from a Junior High cafeteria, and live entertainment that plays for decades and is more often worthy of a 1980’s Carnival cruise ship. <<
Originally Posted By TDLFAN Makes my point of view about WDW look like "Child's play". I feel so vindicated.
Originally Posted By TDLFAN Al hit it on the proverbial nail's head with this comment: <<<Considering a Disney vacation is not for the weak of wallet, the lack of quality and showmanship now painfully evident in Orlando is only magnified when you consider the premium costs involved.>>> This is EXACTLY what I have been arguing about WDW for the longest time here on LP and being hated for.. This is the place where you pay the most and get the least quality. Only quantity matches the price, but quality?? NO. Reason why I gladly drop $600 on the TDR AP that offers absolutely NOTHING but entry to the parks, and I pay the price because I know what is where true Disney quality is found, overall. Ihave nothing to add to this as I am sounding like the broken record of truth.
Originally Posted By trekkeruss <<This is EXACTLY what I have been arguing about WDW for the longest time here on LP and being hated for>> I think anyone here with half a brain cell knows that that is not why you are hated. Everyone appreciates your views and reviews on Disney. It's your online persona that gets you in trouble sometimes, which you claim to enjoy projecting. Wanna stop the "hatred?" Seems pretty simple to do if that's what you really want. My guess is you don't want to stop.
Originally Posted By trekkeruss <<But for every exemplary offering (dinner and fireworks at the California Grill at the top of the Contemporary Hotel, or Epcot’s TestTrack ride)>> Mousefun must be Al.
Originally Posted By RoadTrip I have to admit that Lutz certainly knows his stuff: <<Next up was Mission:Space which was right next door. The ride building is even more impressive in person, all the photographs I'd seen before do not do it any justice. I also liked the dramatic pre-show and boarding videos. Very slick. I did the higher intensity "Orange" team version and thought the various sensations they achieved were outstanding. This easily took the crown as WDW's premier ride.>> My thoughts exactly!! As for the park being stale... I hope that now Disneyland has been all spiffed up for the 50th, Disney might again turn its attention to WDW.
Originally Posted By Shooba Maybe it's because I went to WDW recently and had a wonderful time, but this Lutz column came across as way too negative. I always like his stuff and his criticisms are generally fair, but he came off in this report as hating so much of WDW. I think a more detailed report listing the good AND the bad would have been more illuminating.
Originally Posted By RoadTrip I think TDLFAN gives us insightful information about WDW, even though I disagree with it some of the time. I also think he likes to bait people almost as much as Beau does.
Originally Posted By trekkeruss <<I think a more detailed report listing the good AND the bad would have been more illuminating.>> I thought he did list things that were good and bad. But he said it wasn't a trip report, but an observation about the entire experience and his impression about the state of WDW.
Originally Posted By Witches of Morva ORDDU: Since my sisters and I were fortunate enough to be with Mr. Lutz during part of his visit to Florida, we can assure you that his impressions of Walt Disney World were not entirely on the negative side. ORWEN: And--even the negative impressions he DID have--were quite valid. We've been saying the same things for years about the Haunted Mansion's neglect, along with the lower standards--in general--that Walt Disney World wants its guests to be satisfied with. ORDDU: That doesn't mean there aren't still things to be happy about. And Mr. Lutz WAS happy to be at the resort. He merely gave his truthful impressions of the place and there's no reason for anyone to get their nickers in a knot over his honest opinions. ORWEN: After all, some guests are willing to settle for mediocre or worse. Mr. Lutz just doesn't happen to be one of them. ORGOCH: Neither is we!!!
Originally Posted By Inspector 57 I've been following the reviews of both Al Lutz and of TDLFAN for years. I see several commonalities between the two of them. Both are very familiar with the Disney Parks and the Park's history. Both are very observant and critical reviewers. Both seem to be sincerely disappointed in the quality of the US Parks. But I see a huge and crucial difference between them. Lutz seems to me to have decided that being a hyper-critical complainer is his ticket to fame. He is always looking for a way to tear down the Parks in a way that will be sensational and newsworthy. He LOOKS for the negative, and he delights in detailing it. TDLFAN, I think, wants to report the best about all of the Parks. But he reports it as he sees it, which is frequently negative. He criticizes ALL the Parks, and he reports all the good stuff about all the Parks. (I think he's prejudiced toward the Japanese Parks, but I don't think his reviews of any of the Parks are unfairly tainted.) I'm not saying that Al Lutz' criticisms of WDW are unfounded. I'm saying that, unfortunately, he has damaged his own credibility previously by demonstrating that his highest priority is to make comments that get him noticed.
