Originally Posted By KatieKate123 You know I used to come on this board every day because I really enjoyed reading people's trip reports, reading other people's questions, and seeing who was going to Disney land/ Disney World soon. feeling jealous of them and counting down my days until I returned. It seems like this past month all I get to read is negative comments about Disney World. I truely do not understand why you bother going back if you don't like it. I love it there, that is why my goal is to go back every year this is why I watch my pennys to take a trip. I count down days from excitment, and I think of interesting things for my children to do during the year that is cheap so that I don't have to spend a lot during the year and can put that money towards disney world. So I guess I just am tired of reading the nasty comments about Disney World. My children still have the wonder on their faces when they meet the princesses when they meet tinker bell, and when they just walk into the place so that is awesome to me. They look forward to the trip all year, and I love it. So please stop with the negative.
Originally Posted By Mickeymouseclub I actually did not realize my comments were taken as being so negative. I guess it is easier to complain. I have been working on a trip report but have hesitated to post it since I feel nobody will read it. I noticed nobody posts anything about the unique Holiday offerings at WDW. I was just so busy focusing on the holiday offerings I barely had time for anything else. That is a good thing. I really did have FUN.
Originally Posted By EPCOT Explorer You are essentially asking us to stop voicing our opinions on a discussion board of all things. I honestly hate to be rude, but where's the logic in that? Also... I really don't think anyone genuinely "hates" (strong word...) WDW... I do, however, think, that given their rich history of quality and entertainment, people come to expect a lot out of the place. I certainly do, and when they aren't up to their old standard's it's quite warranted to critique, question, and yes, complain. I'm sorry these opinions effect your enjoyment of the place... Though I do partake in the discussion of how Disney could be better (and in how they still provoke the wonder you spoke about) I really don't let other's thoughts, and my own, even really detract from the fun, and excitement that comes with visiting WDW. Heck, I'm going next week, after saving for a long time, and I'm psyched.
Originally Posted By joe80x86 I generally agree there used to be alot of interesting discussion but seriously now this board WDW General seems like a never ending bitch fest. So I moved on to other forums. I understand some of the complaining but some people seem to do nothing more but beat the same dead horse day after day after day, thread after thread after thread. Plus it could be just me but the amount of new info and stuff postings seems way down on here, perhaps I am not the only one to move on.
Originally Posted By Lee hisownself It's called "tough love." When you love someone/something, you want the best for him/it. WDW is like a teenager who got straight As in elementary school and junior high, but in high school has let it slip to Bs and Cs. In that case, you have to call them on it, and hope to stir them to live up to their previous standards and performance. Think of it as "constructive criticism."
Originally Posted By skinnerbox KatieKate... why do you continue to read and post on a discussion board site that's so negative? Makes no sense. EE nailed it. Folks have just as much right to complain about WDW as you have to praise it. Asking other posters to stop writing negative comments is arrogant and selfish. If you don't like the complaints people are posting on this site, then just stop reading it.
Originally Posted By Mickeymouseclub That is not the correct response either. I do think we need a little more positive posts about WDW. I have even noticed many of the critical posters have not actually visited WDW in over a year or more! And this board is very heavily visited by more local DL people. Even Doobie and Rebekah recognized the need to create more Disneyworld interest thus it helped make their decision to move across the country an important aspect. I think LP needs to keep all posters welcome.
Originally Posted By NikkiLOVESMickey <<KatieKate... why do you continue to read and post on a discussion board site that's so negative? Makes no sense.>> Probably because she wants this board to return to what it used to be - a discussion that wasn't a 24 hour complaint fest, posted by the same people over and over. People used to post on this board constantly. I'd come home from work and there would be at least 50 new posts to read. Now, it's the same people posting the same thing repeatedly. They took a fun, vibrant place and turned it into a boring, melancholy place.
Originally Posted By skinnerbox Wow. So now LP is dead and dying because it's a "24 hour complaint fest"? Did it every occur to you that many of the former posters have left for other reasons? Like, say, dissatisfaction with the Disney lifestyle in general? As for wanting the boards to return to the good ol' days... If the "positive posters" are so wimpy as to bail on the web site and allow the "negative nellies" to take over, it's their own fault for leaving. The only way the site will ever return to "what it used to be" is for the happy happy joy joy posters to gird their loins and stick around. And if LP is such a "boring, melanchony place" then why are you still here? Can't be all that bad if you're still participating.
Originally Posted By HokieSkipper Ahhh, the "stop complaining thread" seems like no WDW-centric forum can go a few months without one these days. I literally see one everywhere that I either read or post. Now...doesn't that say something? doesn't that make one thing obvious? People are mad as hell, and they're talking about it. Where there's smoke there's fire. Etc. People aren't dumb, and anyone can see that the quality has slipped heavily in the past few years. And there is a growing number of fans that aren't going to keep quiet about it. This isn't just at LP. It's all over the place. <<Plus it could be just me but the amount of new info and stuff postings seems way down on here, perhaps I am not the only one to move on.>> What new info? Seriously. Go to another site and tell me what new info there is about WDW? And I'm not talking about some crap thread about Blizzard Beach being closed because of cold weather. You find almost no real "new" info on WDW sites because there isn't anything new or exciting to write about. It's why you'll find 10 threads in their "News and Rumors" sections titled "Z0MG NEW LANDZ 4 DAK!!!!!!&!!&!"
Originally Posted By EPCOT Explorer >>>WDW is like a teenager who got straight As in elementary school and junior high, but in high school has let it slip to Bs and Cs. In that case, you have to call them on it, and hope to stir them to live up to their previous standards and performance.<<< Where WDW was once vibrant and dynamic, and intelligent... I's clutching plush. It's reverted!
Originally Posted By EPCOT Explorer >>>EE nailed it. Folks have just as much right to complain about WDW as you have to praise it. Asking other posters to stop writing negative comments is arrogant and selfish.<<< Thanks!
Originally Posted By EPCOT Explorer >>>Probably because she wants this board to return to what it used to be - a discussion that wasn't a 24 hour complaint fest, posted by the same people over and over. People used to post on this board constantly. I'd come home from work and there would be at least 50 new posts to read. Now, it's the same people posting the same thing repeatedly. They took a fun, vibrant place and turned it into a boring, melancholy place.<<<< Funny, I think of our community, and the friends on here as fun, intelligent, and vibrant. I used to think that about another site. I left that one when I no longer felt that way. Notice how I had to take action in all those scenarios? I didn't ask anyone to change because I was unhappy at what others were independently doing. The complaining about people complaining it getting old.
Originally Posted By NikkiLOVESMickey <<Did it every occur to you that many of the former posters have left for other reasons? Like, say, dissatisfaction with the Disney lifestyle in general?>> That's why they talk about WDW on Facebook so much, but don't post here - they've given up the "Disney lifestyle."
Originally Posted By NikkiLOVESMickey <<Notice how I had to take action in all those scenarios? I didn't ask anyone to change because I was unhappy at what others were independently doing. The complaining about people complaining it getting old. >> Nope, sorry, not going anywhere. There are a growing number of people upset - not just me. If you're tired of reading it, why don't you take your own advice?
Originally Posted By leobloom >> So I guess I just am tired of reading the nasty comments about Disney World. << Yeah, guys! If we're not careful, we might hurt Disney World's feelings! Wouldn't want to do that to an old friend, would we?
Originally Posted By leobloom >> Also... I really don't think anyone genuinely "hates" (strong word...) WDW... << It's much easier to be reductive and paint all the critics with a broad brush.
Originally Posted By leobloom >> That is not the correct response either. I do think we need a little more positive posts about WDW. << How about posting 10 positive posts for every 1 negative post? Maybe if we do that then Cinderella Castle won't cry itself to sleep at night.
Originally Posted By EPCOT Explorer >>>Nope, sorry, not going anywhere. There are a growing number of people upset - not just me. If you're tired of reading it, why don't you take your own advice?<<< I do. I honestly don't worry about what you think of our posts, to be frank. I've learned the hard way not to worry, or to conform for people on the internet.
Originally Posted By leobloom >> Nope, sorry, not going anywhere. There are a growing number of people upset - not just me. If you're tired of reading it, why don't you take your own advice? << Sounds just as brash as Spirit, but you probably didn't want to hear that. C'mon everyone, let's hold digital hands and sing, 'A Dream is a Wish Your Heart Makes.' I heard a rumor that our complaints are turning the Tree of Life's leaves brown. We can't let that happen! Think back to your most magical memory in a WDW restroom and we can solve this thing!
