Originally Posted By Darkbeer Actually, the expectations are high, especially for the Convention Center attendees and locals. The "Disney tourist" is just gravy. Though I think the owners are disappointed the Platinum area near Angel Stadium has stalled, as they were looking at those new residents, many in the higher income levels as potential customers. I think it will do a lot of business, especially when the entire complex is open next May. But only time will tell.
Originally Posted By Darkbeer And who might lose, I think that Convention bookings at the ESPN Zone and the House of Blues in DtD will not get as many bookings, as companies switch to places like the upscale bowling complex and a couple of other places designed for large groups at AGW.
Originally Posted By Hans Reinhardt House of Blues won't have any competition for convention/meeting business unless the new venues have stages and in-house concert sound & lighting. Maybe they do, but I can't imagine a bowling alley with the same kind of production facilities as HoB. They're really two different kinds of venues that serve different purposes.
Originally Posted By Darkbeer ^ I know that multiple theaters in the Movie Theater have been designed for "live" events. (Not all of them, but a few of the larger theaters, plus a few of the smaller ones, specifically for the Convention Center attendees. And yes, the Upscale Bowling Center has one area designed for meetings and away from the actual Bowling Alleys. Since that is their major market, don't you think they would plan for the primary guests????
Originally Posted By Spirit of 74 "Can I stalk you, Jon?" <<Take a number. >> Truly LMAO ... good thing I'm not drinking anything or it would be all over the screen! I really wanted to be your first ... stalker. I'm crushed!
Originally Posted By Hans Reinhardt "Since that is their major market, don't you think they would plan for the primary guests????" Well of course, Darkbeer, but as an event industry professional I can tell you firsthand that there aren't a lot of facilities as well appointed and suited for a variety of special events as The House of Blues. Certainly not a movie theater for goodness sakes. Besides, why would a meeting planner hold business in a movie theater at AGW when there are dozens of available breakout rooms in an assortment of sizes at the Convention Center with complete AV support?
Originally Posted By ChurroMonster "P.J. Chang’s is very good in Roseville. " I grew up in Roseville. It's the Irvine of Northern California: very nice but very sterile.
Originally Posted By Zwitek <<< Did you ever eat at the Lanai? >>> I don't know that I ever actually ATE at the Lanai, but I did consume mass quantities of beverages. There's a Tiki Bar in Alameda called the Forbidden Island, and they have a drink named in honor of the long passed Lanai.
Originally Posted By jonvn There was until about a year ago, a place callee "Lanai Liquors." It had some of the decor from the place. What little was left was removed and now it's "Phillip's Liquors."
Originally Posted By Hans Reinhardt "For the nearby bowling?" Maybe. Given that there are a limited number of lanes I'd be curious to know just how much private convention business these kinds of places get in similar markets.
Originally Posted By fkurucz <<the same hotel chains, the same stores, and the same places to eat. American tourist destinations are all started to look, sound and taste the same.>> I recall reading a Peanuts comic strip from decades ago where Charlie Brown is telling Linus about his recent vacation. His main remark was that everywhere you went, it looked pretty much the same as at home. This strip was published in the 70's IIRC. <<Based on national shopping trends these days, it will probably underperform. Traffic is declining at malls everywhere, and the chain restaurants similar to the ones going in at AGW haven't been doing well lately either.>> I think that this is particularly true for the neighborhood mall, as day to day consumers are tightening their belts. But AGW's target demographic is primarily : 1) People on vacation, who will probably be a little likelier to crack the wallet open than when at home. 2) Convention attendees, many who have expense accounts.
Originally Posted By jonvn I've attended conferences. Know where I eat? In the hotel. I'm too busy to spend half a day going over to a local mall to eat food you can get anywhere.
Originally Posted By jonvn I've attended conferences. Know where I eat? In the hotel. I'm too busy to spend half a day going over to a local mall to eat food you can get anywhere.
Originally Posted By dshyates Your right jon, conventioneers probably won't step foot into GW. Count them out guys. Jon doesn't do it. The paradigm has been set.
Originally Posted By jonvn Thanks. Can you all send me some money too, while you're at it? I simply am relaying what I do. Generally when I'm at one of these things, I'm busy doing work. If I were to take time off for one day, I'd not spend it at the local mall.
Originally Posted By Sport Goofy << 2) Convention attendees, many who have expense accounts. >> I don't recall ever seeking out a shopping mall as a destination while attending a convention. If you do venture outside of the convention hall or hotel, its usually to visit the local sights or more touristy type venues. Shopping malls are ubiquitous in our country and don't show up as a blip on the radar scope anymore when you are traveling out of town.
Originally Posted By fkurucz <<I've attended conferences. Know where I eat? In the hotel.>> I recall a convention I went to (I don't go to many) in San Antonio. The Riverwalk restaurants were mobbed by attendees. I'm sure some ate at the hotel, but
Originally Posted By fkurucz <<I don't recall ever seeking out a shopping mall as a destination while attending a convention.>> Of course. You go to the front desk and ask them what they recommend. Then they tell you that there are a bunch of restaurants at the mall on the next block.
