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Originally Posted By Dabob2 <I don't see Ann's remarks as vile. That's my POV and I'm sticking to it.> Fine. But that says a lot about you. <Ann wouldn't even have had to say anything about that particular gang if they hadn't been using their victimhood status to try and impact national policy in the war on terror, > Okay. But having come to that conclusion, she could have criticized them thoughtfully and intelligently. Instead, she was indeed vicious and catty, which is a way to sell books and endear herself to lockstep far-right people, but no one else. And it's too bad that you can't make the distinction between a legitimate point of view and a vicious way of expressing it when it's one of "your guys" doing it.
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Originally Posted By Eric Paddon "Fine. But that says a lot about you." Right. That I'm a mainstream Reagan conservative, and proud of it when conservatives finally stand up for their own principles.
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Originally Posted By jonvn "That I'm a mainstream Reagan conservative" Reagan wasn't this conservative. Mainstream conservatives are not like this extreme, either.
Originally Posted By Eric Paddon "And you wonder why people might want to persecute Christians?" Chiefly because they hate Christianity so much it would seem. And to Dabob, I'm sorry but I don't consider Sean Hannity or the American Spectator or the other fine columnists at places like National Review, Newsbusters.org, the Front Page etc. out of the Reagan mainstream, and they're not taking the media elite's line of thought on Ann's remark either. So I suggest you not presume to speak for the conservative movement as being of one accord on what Ann has said.
Originally Posted By mele I guess politics is just about pointing out how bad the other side is anymore. How unfortunate. What a waste of time and energy.
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Originally Posted By Dabob2 I don't presume to speak for them (as apparently you do), just for the mainstream conservatives who already HAVE spoken up about Coulter's vile remarks. The National Review is okay (though they miss an active Buckley), but Hannity? Newsbusters fercryinoutloud? You consider them mainstream? Oooooookay. That's telling, too.
Originally Posted By mele <<Chiefly because they hate Christianity so much it would seem. >> Yeah, I can see how much it would seem that way to you. Of course, "what it seem" isn't hardly ever "what it is".
Originally Posted By Eric Paddon "Reagan wasn't this conservative." You mean Reagan wasn't for lower taxes, responsible judges, a strong defense, and against abortion and social radicalism? Boy, talk about revisionist history!
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