Originally Posted By Mr X Vatican lists "new sins"... <a href="http://green.yahoo.com/news/nm/20080310/hl_nm/pope_sins_dc.html" target="_blank">http://green.yahoo.com/news/nm /20080310/hl_nm/pope_sins_dc.html</a>
Originally Posted By davewasbaloo Dude, you know I love you right? But you just love poking your fingers in. And like a sucker, I read.
Originally Posted By plpeters70 Well, if our governments won't do anything about climate change, at least the churches are getting proactive. even the Southern Baptists are finally on board: <a href="http://www.cnn.com/2008/US/03/10/baptist.climate/" target="_blank">http://www.cnn.com/2008/US/03/ 10/baptist.climate/</a>
Originally Posted By davewasbaloo Although organised religion can do harm at times, they also can do some great work too. I would love to see carbon neutrality kpis set for Vatican City (or it would be really cool if WDW showed the way in reaching carbon neutrality).
Originally Posted By Mrs ElderP My official church doctrine, as I understand it, is that the end of the world as we know it, and the begining of the millinium will be marked, in part, by earthquakes, floods, and other general enviromental havoc. It is now my personal belief (and should no way reflect on the official doctrine of any church) that this enviromental havoc will not be created by the special intervention of God, but as a natural consequence of our own enviromental missconduct. I *do* think that it is a sin what we are doing to the earth God created for us and gave us dominion over, and I think when we come before Him at the great bar, that is one thing we will be held account for. (Unfortuantly my own actions don't match my beliefs as much as I wish they would. I still consume and throw out way too much trash, drive a car that gets under 25mpg, and rarely am able to buy organic. *frown*)
Originally Posted By Mr X ***Anything in there about child rape?*** That's a good point. They're so all-fired concerned about the stem cell boogy-man (watch out! they'll clone humans next!), and yet they don't address the sins of their own people, certainly something to be noted if you want to talk about modern day transgressions. Anyway, the whole "polluting is a sin" is all well and good, but it's amazing that the issue has been around for decades and yet now the church bothers to address it. Shows how out of touch they really are!
Originally Posted By davewasbaloo >>>Shows how out of touch they really are!<<< and yet they are still more in touch than the US government. What does that say?
Originally Posted By jonvn "and the begining of the millinium will be marked, in part, by earthquakes, floods, and other general enviromental havoc" You do realize how ridiculous that is. We've had earthquakes and floods oh, since before people were here. And environmental havoc? Like an ice age which we've had a few of? "yet they don't address the sins of their own people" Yes. And that's the prism through which I view anything that particular church does. It harbors child molesters. But I will say this pollution thing is a good idea from them. Glad they are on board with this. It only took half a century of evidence. At least they did not wait as long as they did with Galileo.
Originally Posted By Gatsby is there a time difference in Europe for daight savings? That is to say, well I am unsure how to phrase this. Let me give an example. Last month, Nashville, TN was 7 hours behind say Isreal. Today are we now 6 hours behind due to daylight savings time? And do countries in Europe practice any sort of time shifting such as daylight savings time? Yes I know this is off topic, but you thinkers read WE so I figure you'll know.
Originally Posted By Mrs ElderP Gatsby--More information than you wanted comming up: One provision of NAFTA was that Mexico had to univerally adopt Daylight Savings Time. I know this because my father-in-law, a resident of Mexico City, grumbles about changing his clocks, which he didn't have to do before a couple of years ago.
Originally Posted By johnno52 Yes same as up here in Canada. The US says jump and we say how high! No consideration is given to the fact that the kids are going to school in the dark is not important. Saving on Energy is the excuse but our vehicles are running as its too cold and dangerous for the kids to walk to school. Confusion is felt all over the world as we are not in sinc.
Originally Posted By wahooskipper What Canada does causes confusion all over the world? Ok, make a decision, English or French.
Originally Posted By johnno52 I speak French as good as the average American speaks Spanish, or is that Latino or whatever the staff speaks in WDW.
Originally Posted By Gatsby yes indeed, far more info than requested. I was doing okay until the Canadian showed up. Now I'm just more confused, globally.
