Originally Posted By Donny I always wondered how those little booths were legal. <a href="http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/crime/os-used-theme-park-ticket-sale-arrest-20120209,0,1200190,print.story" target="_blank">http://www.orlandosentinel.com...nt.story</a>
Originally Posted By tashajilek I dont get how these tickets would work? if you bought a new ticket that already had a few days used wouldnt the person have their finger print scanned? So wouldnt the second person not be able to get in the park once they scan their print?
Originally Posted By dagobert What purpose does the fingerprints have? In Paris Disney is not using the fingerprint, there they still use paper tickets. At first DLRP also used plastic cards, but with the opening of WDSP, they changed to paper tickets. Since the tickets are not personalized with fingerprints, it would be possible to sell the tickets. I wonder if it would be possible for Disney to use the fingerprints in Europe, due to European Union Personal Data Law.
Originally Posted By Donny I think biometric is to stop scalping of tickets I do wish as an AP holder I could get a plastic card.
Originally Posted By SeventyOne Actually talked to a guy in this business one time in a sketchy I-Drive bar (yeah, not surprisingly he came across as a shady SOB). The biometric scan is NOT a fingerprint--nowhere near that level of detail is recorded. It merely measures the length the finger, or the top section of the finger, or something like that. Supposedly--never tried this, no desire to, but this is what he tells his customers--you can "trick" it by jamming your finger toward the top. That assumes your ticket still has days on it, tho, which is the #1 reason I would never even bother with this. I am shocked how brazen these places are. A couple on 192 even have little permanent kiosks. I mean, can you imagine a gift shop with a banner saying "Pot Sold Here"? Same idea basically.
Originally Posted By SpokkerJones Any physical product you buy can be resold for whatever you are willing to sell it for and whatever another person is willing to pay for it. I have a table and I can give it away or attempt to sell it. Why, then, are park/sports/concert tickets so important that the government has to get involved? It sounds to me like big companies lobby the government for special privileges.
Originally Posted By SuperDry <<< The biometric scan is NOT a fingerprint--nowhere near that level of detail is recorded. It merely measures the length the finger, or the top section of the finger, or something like that. >>> That's outdated information. Years ago, WDW had finger geometry scanners, whereby you put your index and middle fingers into the scanner and it measured the length of your fingers. These were replaced a few years ago with optical fingerprint scanners. Although it's true that they don't store an actual image of your fingerprint in the sense of what might look like a photograph, they do harvest enough information to differentiate your fingerprint from all others to a very high degree. So, the scanner knows to a very high degree of certainty whether subsequent users are the same person as the original - much more so than the old geometry scanners. <<< Supposedly--never tried this, no desire to, but this is what he tells his customers--you can "trick" it by jamming your finger toward the top. >>> Such tricks simply won't work with the modern optical fingerprint scanners they use today.
Originally Posted By tashajilek My husband accidentally used a different finger then what was originally scanned and he had to try again. If it is a hard system to trick how are prople buying cheap tickets and getting in?
Originally Posted By SuperDry <<< How long does the finger print scan last ? >>> I can't see why they'd not keep it for the life of the ticket, which for many tickets is "forever" until all the days are used. It's a relatively small amount of data.
Originally Posted By elene I bought a multi day ticket more than 10 years ago (maybe 14?) before they had the finger scan thing. Now I always stay on site and buy the 10 day tickets so I haven't had a need to use it. I know my dad used his a couple of years ago when he flew out for my son's first birthday and could only stay 2 days. I don't know if they scanned his finger so now it is associated with him or not.
Originally Posted By sjhym333 The thing is that the finger scan gives the CM a heads up. If the scan does not work after a couple of tries, then they are supposed to call for a coordinator or supervisor who can then ask questions about the ticket usage and such to see if the person using the ticket is in fact the original purchaser. I have a friend who is a ticket mgr and he has told me that Disney is aware of an increase of tickets being resold and is working hard to stop it. And so if a guest's finger scan does not work and the guest cannot give information that is coded in the tickets then they are not being admitted
Originally Posted By FerretAfros And where do these places get their tickets from? I would assume it's just random people (like who they sell them to), but I have a hard time believing that there are enough people out there who buy tickets with many extra days on them, just to turn around and sell them.
Originally Posted By tashajilek ^ Not only that, there are that many people who re buy these tickets and get refused entry. If this were true how could those places keep making money selling tickets that wont work?
Originally Posted By Goofyernmost I long for the good old days. Back when the tickets were validated via a rubber stamp with the date on it and all tickets never expired. I can remember back then having to sell the remaining days on my ticket to one of those little booths on 192. Money was really tight and having two days worth of admission tied up for who knows how long just wasn't the preferred thing to do. Of, course back then it was only about 30 something dollars a day for a park hopper, but times 4 it was significant. All you had to do then was drive up to the booth, they would come out and make you an offer, my experience was about half value, take the money and off you go. It was pretty much the same process to buy them except the price per day was higher then you could get at Disney but you didn't have to tie up money for more days then you were going to use. I suppose that back then Disney didn't want that to happen, but I didn't know that. I really thought that those places were an extension of Disney itself. Never even crossed my mind that it was forbidden by Disney and at the time, I guess, they had absolutely no way to know where the ticket came from when you got to the gate. They do now and I have seen many families looking pretty embarrassed because the tickets were not originally theirs.
Originally Posted By SeventyOne <And where do these places get their tickets from? I would assume it's just random people (like who they sell them to), but I have a hard time believing that there are enough people out there who buy tickets with many extra days on them, just to turn around and sell them.> I got the impression these places cater to British tourists more. (Of course, this was a guy on north I-Drive, who else stays there any more?) All I can think is maybe they get tend to get extra days as part of some package deal. If the Sentinel was a real newspaper, rather than a republisher of Disney press releases, this would make an interesting story for an expose. It really is like a gift shop having a banner out front reading "Buy your weed here!"
