Originally Posted By ecdc This is a great BBC documentary I'd recommend to anyone. It shows just how far the Bush administration has gone to suppress evidence of global warming, including delaying reports by respected scientists (instead of scientists working for Exxon) until after the 2004 election. Since it's a British documentary, it's particular strength is showing just how alone the U.S. is in its stubborn denial of global warming as a man-made cause. Scientists from around the world are united, yet the U.S. refuses to budge. Of course, it's just a coincidence that so many Bush administration officials have ties to big oil and the auto industry. If it sounds like a one-sided, nasty Michael Moorish documentary, it's not. They interview Republican Christie Todd Whitman, who was head of the EPA for sometime (though she has plenty of criticisms). They gave equal time to Bush's energy advisor. It's really an excellent piece. I personally think the biggest lie from the Neo-Cons about global warming has been this portrayal of the debate as somehow a set of evenly balanced scales. On the one side are those people who believe it is real and man-made; on the other are those who either don't believe it at all or who simply argue it's a natural cycle. This is, of course, absurd. The scales are tipped alarmingly in favor of those scientists in both the American and international community who believe global warming is real, is man-made, and must be addressed immediately. These are people who work for governments, universities, and non-profit organizations. You'll be hard pressed to find a scientist who isn't funded by the oil industry to tell you otherwise. It reminds me of people who believe the Apollo moon landing was faked on a soundstage in Burbank. They're a tiny minority, but they're vocal and they're convinced they just know what every other reasonable human can't figure out.
Originally Posted By Dirk_D_from_Oregon Produced by the BBC. That says it right there Ed. It may as well have been produced my Michael Moore.
Originally Posted By Shooba I'd prefer to see a dispute of the facts, not just the source. I reluctantly went to see Al Gore's new documentary (An Inconventient Truth) on the weekend (paying $10 for a lecture on global warming was not my idea of a fun time) and the evidence was pretty compelling.
Originally Posted By Dabob2 Are they showing this on BBC America, is it netflix-able, or is it playing in theatres?
Originally Posted By ecdc You should still be able to view the whole thing at <a href="http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/programmes/panorama/5005994.stm" target="_blank">http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/pro grammes/panorama/5005994.stm</a> by clicking on the right on video. I got tired of viewing it in that tiny little window and did a search and found it available for download in a higher quality format - though it was a tv rip - not something sponsored by BBC.
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Originally Posted By Dirk_D_from_Oregon The documentary came from the BBC for crying out loud. I place the BBC on the same level as al jazeera.
Originally Posted By Dabob2 <The big time real scientists will tell you that the Global warming scare is based on jumk science and is a great way for liberals to get money for their little theory.> Actually, Beau, ecdc had it right when he said "You'll be hard pressed to find a scientist who isn't funded by the oil industry to tell you otherwise." (i.e. to tell you that global warming wasn't for real). This has only gotten to be more and more the case. You could probably count the number of "big time scientists" who aren't funded by oil or employed in the current admin. who say otherwise on the fingers of two hands, particularly from the last 3 years or so.
Originally Posted By Dabob2 <yep> Can you give specific examples of where they've broadcast things that weren't true?
Originally Posted By Shooba Well, I've seen the Al Gore movie, so I look forward to someone providing evidence to refute global warming. I have an open mind, I've only heard one side of the story so far.
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Originally Posted By Shooba LOL, a Michael Crichton novel is held up as a good source to refute global warming? As much as I like the fact that his books have some science behind them (gives them more of a sense of realism), I think I want a better source on this matter. Does this mean we should divert funds from the threat of global warming, and focus on the threat of cloned dinosaurs run amok?
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