Originally Posted By oc_dean >>"I can tell you that every one of my colleagues at WDI that I talk to do not want the movie to return. It was a product of its time. It should remain in the vault where it belongs." Nice to know that the folks in Imagineering haven't completely lost their minds.<< So you think they haven't lost their minds? MILF rumor? How about the first MILF to go through in WDW? Not to mention a horde of other attractions that are total jokes? They lost their "creative" minds a long time ago!
Originally Posted By Hista98 I just had a smart point pointed out to me. Al was the only person to report on this whole EO thing, doens't that seem kind of scketchy to anyone? usually it reported by various sources. the fact that it wa sonly him to report it seems odd to me.
Originally Posted By Hans Reinhardt "So you think they haven't lost their minds?" I said "completely".
Originally Posted By DlandDug So... TMZ reports that the Jackson kids saw the film at Disneyland, then reports that an on-line website described that Imagineers trucking equipment in for the special screening, and the Usual Suspects say this "proves" that the website was 100% right all along. Captain EO can be shown in any 3-D screening room with the right format. But it would most emphatically not be a full presentation of the show. (P.S. Yes, it is true that the possibility that Captain EO will return exists. In the same sense, it is also possible that the entire Disneyland Resort could be returned to productive orange groves.)
Originally Posted By Kar2oonMan >>So... TMZ reports that the Jackson kids saw the film at Disneyland, then reports that an on-line website described that Imagineers trucking equipment in for the special screening, and the Usual Suspects say this "proves" that the website was 100% right all along.<< LOL
Originally Posted By spacejockey EO or MILF? How about a great new attraction instead? I don't want to be stuck with MILF for another 15 to 20 years. Please NO!!!
Originally Posted By believe >>>> EO or MILF? How about a great new attraction instead? <<<<< New would be good, but I think it should stay as a theatre. That's the only movie theatre left in DL (don't count ST), while DCA has about 3 or more movie based shows. Make more 3D movie. If Sea World can do it, why can't Disney? Sea World seems to switch out their 4D movies every 3 years...
Originally Posted By Hans Reinhardt I still say they should demolish the movie theater and return it to the open amphitheater that it used to be.
Originally Posted By Hista98 to me it seems that mosnters inc never does well ,when it comes to baisng attractions on it. I hope Milf doens't come. it's the one attraction that really doesn't fit TL at all. I think its stupid the TDA doesn't seem to care about DL's themes any more, its the one thing DL does better then most parks. why ruin it.
Originally Posted By plpeters70 <<I think its stupid the TDA doesn't seem to care about DL's themes any more, its the one thing DL does better then most parks. why ruin it.>> I don't think TDA is to blame specifically - it seems to be higher-up than that. Disney seems to have decided that DL-style parks = Fantasy, so they can stick characters in whatever land they want. I think the old way of looking a Disneyland as a park with several themes is pretty much dead and gone - it's all about Fantasy now, with only a little effort being made to "fit" the characters into the specific themed-lands.
Originally Posted By DlandDug >>I think the old way of looking a Disneyland as a park with several themes is pretty much dead and gone - it's all about Fantasy now...<< "Fantasy" fits into most any theme. It always has at Disneyland, anyway. When Walt was alive we had mermaids and a cross-eyed sea serpent in Tomorrowland, cactus that looked like the Seven Dwarfs in Frontierland, and singing flowers and Tiki gods in Adventureland. Fantasy isn't some new agenda that was suddenly discovered in the mid 1990s.
Originally Posted By plpeters70 <<Fantasy isn't some new agenda that was suddenly discovered in the mid 1990s.>> I don't know - the types of "fantasy" you described are a far different thing than having Toy Story and Monsters attractions in Tomorrowland, or British bears in the Old West. Yes, I mispoke when I said that there wasn't "fantasy" in the old Disneyland - clearly talking birds and bears are fantasy. What I should have said was that the fantasy of the old parks always fit the theme, and wasn't just based on cramming movie-characters into the parks - not so much today.
Originally Posted By Hans Reinhardt "Fantasy isn't some new agenda that was suddenly discovered in the mid 1990s." I think there's a difference between fantasy (ie: Snow White) and whimsy (funny looking cactus in Frontierland. There's a directive by Disney executives to promote Disney's character brands across the spectrum wherever and whenever they can. That indeed is something that started in the last decade or so.
Originally Posted By Spyderman I posted this in the ST thread but I think it belongs here: Captain Eo's costume and a poster next to it where at the D23 expo and on a podcast one of the guys in charge of D23 even hinted that they were thinking about having the EO walk around charecters come out on the floor. So it seems to me an announcement was planned/is planned. One thing is for sure, the EO costume got the most attention in the treasure room with almost EVERY person who walked by saying either "bring it back" or "I never got to see that show I hope disneybrings it back". In one heart warming moment a little boy and girl walked up to the costume. The boy pointed at the poster and said "dad is that the new ride coming to Disneyland??" and the dad looked at it and said "maybe". I swear im not making any of this up.
Originally Posted By DlandDug It's no mystery that the Archives would display a Captain EO costume, since there is still great interest since MJ's untimely death. I understand that the Archives borrowed the costume from George Lucas. As far as the anecdotal stories shared above, they are undeniably charming, but largely meaningless. I was there and heard people sort of snickering over how dated the whole thing looked. (And did the nice little boy point at costumes for Gisselle, TRON or Gabriella and ask if they were new rides coming to Disneyland, too? Kind of weird in that context, no?)
Originally Posted By dizkid >>As far as the anecdotal stories shared above, they are undeniably charming, but largely meaningless. I was there and heard people sort of snickering over how dated the whole thing looked.<< The costume was dated, try the entire movie. Talking to people who were around when it first opened said their first impression was that the movie was cheap.
Originally Posted By believe Something to ponder Walt Disney did set a precidence for reissuing movies every 7 years before the advent of Video tapes and DVD. They're still doing it with Beauty and the Beast, Toy Story 1/2, and maybe, EO?
Originally Posted By Yookeroo Paul Pressler is responsible for the recession. And all the troubles along Pakistan/Afghanistan border. The interesting thing is that it was his decisions while at Disney that caused all the trouble. "Something to ponder Walt Disney did set a precidence for reissuing movies every 7 years before the advent of Video tapes and DVD. They're still doing it with Beauty and the Beast, Toy Story 1/2, and maybe, EO?" I think you only want to reissue the high quality stuff.
Originally Posted By Jim in Merced CA <The costume was dated, try the entire movie.> I was there, my children. At a Cast Member preview at EPCOT Center's Imagination Pavilion -- 1986. And when Jackson made his grand appearance as Captain EO, and muttered in his little falsetto 'we're goin' in' -- we all laughed. I don't know if I would say it 'looks' cheap, as much as I would say it looks like it was done quickly. Lots of gaffes (a roll of duct tape on the floor, mistakes (one dancer is spinning when he clearly should not be), and weird things (like being able to see the puppeteer's arm as he's playing that butterfly character on Jackson's shoulder) -- gives me the impression that there wasn't any time to go back and re-shoot.
Originally Posted By Bob Paris "Imagineering died shortly after Indiana Jones Adventure opened." Then who designed and built Tokyo DisneySea? I'd suggest a visit to Japan before the fifth trip to Orlando this year to substandard WDW, before you rag on the imagineers.
