Originally Posted By ecdc <a href="http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/01/28/mancrunch-superbowl-ad-ga_n_440773.html" target="_blank">http://www.huffingtonpost.com/...773.html</a> The hypocrisy in this country is astounding. Wanna see an erectile dysfunction ad? No problem. Men and women all over each other? No problem. Wanna see decapitated, dismembered, tortured humans? Tune into CSI five nights a week playing somewhere. But a gay dating ad? Nope. But we will get to see a pro-life ad during the Superbowl.
Originally Posted By skinnerbox I've asked it before. I'll ask it again: WHERE IS THIS SO-CALLED "LIBERAL MEDIA" THE REPUBLICANS KEEP RANTING ABOUT??
Originally Posted By SingleParkPassholder CSB is under no obligation to run this ad, and I can't say as I blame them. Yeah, you can see all sorts of things on TV, but this is obviously a hot button political issue, and why invite trouble? I would also suggest there's a difference between the gratuitous stuff you get from CBS's Two and a Half Men all the time, and bringing upon yourself the political agenda of another organization during the most watched TV show in the world. Plus, while ManCrunch can say all they want that their effort to buy air time is legit, they've just saved themselves $2.8 million and gotten the same amount of publicity. I'd say not airing it is a win/win for all concerned.
Originally Posted By fkurucz I wonder if the website had no real intention of advertising (it is very expensive after all) and were counting on getting denied with all the free publicity that would come?
Originally Posted By SingleParkPassholder "I wonder if the website had no real intention of advertising (it is very expensive after all) and were counting on getting denied with all the free publicity that would come?" According to the linked article they say they had the money and wished someone would "call their bluff", but for my money if they were smart that statement would just be more posturing.
Originally Posted By Dabob2 <Yeah, you can see all sorts of things on TV, but this is obviously a hot button political issue, and why invite trouble? > I might agree with that from CBS's perspective... if they hadn't AGREED to air a pro-life (aka anti-abortion) ad during the super bowl. Talk about a hot-button issue.
Originally Posted By ecdc >>CSB is under no obligation to run this ad, and I can't say as I blame them. Yeah, you can see all sorts of things on TV, but this is obviously a hot button political issue, and why invite trouble?<< That's just it. I don't really blame CBS for making a safe business decision (though a little bit of courage would be nice). I blame our warped culture that very specifically demonizes certain behavior while embracing other behaviors that are far more toxic. CBS isn't dictating our perspectives; they're just following them. And we're an adolescent nation with a gay "ick" factor.
Originally Posted By SingleParkPassholder I'm taking a wait and see with the Tebow ad. No one has seen it, while ManCrunch has made sure theirs has gotten out there. I have a strong distrust for Focus On The Family, but since I haven't seen what Tebow says, I can't offer an opinion. I will say I won't be surprised if I don't like it, though.
Originally Posted By SingleParkPassholder Also, I have a huge problem with this sudden rush to make the Super Bowl ads a huge topic of conversation. I get they're going after the largets audience, but the game itself is enough of a circus that I don't know why we need anything extra added to it. Would we see this if Obama wasn't president? I don't know.
Originally Posted By DAR <<I'm taking a wait and see with the Tebow ad. No one has seen it, while ManCrunch has made sure theirs has gotten out there. I have a strong distrust for Focus On The Family, but since I haven't seen what Tebow says, I can't offer an opinion. I will say I won't be surprised if I don't like it, though.>> Given that he's been a disaster during the pro workouts this week this might be the last we see of Tebow.
Originally Posted By skinnerbox <<I might agree with that from CBS's perspective... if they hadn't AGREED to air a pro-life (aka anti-abortion) ad during the super bowl. Talk about a hot-button issue.>> Exactly. CBS took ad money from Focus on the Family. But they refused to take it from ManCrunch. Double standard. Double standard. Double standard. "Liberal media" my Aunt Fanny.
Originally Posted By ecdc >>"Liberal media" my Aunt Fanny.<< No argument there. The "liberal media" is an unsupportable myth. It's code for "they don't report everything exactly the way we want it reported." Like I've said before, these people live in a different world where FDR was a lousy President and Joe McCarthy was a great, patriotic American. The rest of us live in the real world, so when we see the news reported, we recognize it as just that: news (or increasingly, ratings grabs). But to people who live on Ultra-Conservative Island, every newscast is just more evidence of the correctness of their beliefs.
Originally Posted By onlyme I really don't care whether a gay dating ad or a pro-life ad is played during the SB. I understand how some could view this as a contradiction, though. However, I don't think most macho football types are ready for, "ManCrunch: Where Many Many Many Men Come Out To Play" being aired during their beloved game. I'm sure that's why CBS passed.
Originally Posted By SpokkerJones "However, I don't think most macho football types are ready for, "ManCrunch: Where Many Many Many Men Come Out To Play" being aired during their beloved game. I'm sure that's why CBS passed. " An ad for a queer dating web site would make the football audience uncomfortable, sure. But let's keep in mind that watching football does not make you macho. It does not make you a man. It's a bunch of fat people watching other guys do athletic things. I know some gay dudes that are more manly than a lot of these idiots who watch football.
Originally Posted By SpokkerJones I just watched the ad and it's funny as hell. The two dudes start making out and this other guy looks at the camera with a surprised look on his face. It's all in good fun and very entertaining.
Originally Posted By onlyme I agree. In general, there's a certain wannabe-macho mentality for a lot of 'dudes' that watch football. I enjoy football, but I don't take it to the extreme, as some do. And, you're right, for a lot of these over-enthused football fanatics, this is all they have in life. Just watch all of the beer commercials that show these guys watching a game. Good grief.
Originally Posted By SpokkerJones I always thought that being really into football is just as gay as being really into any other hobby. My obsession with Disneyland is just as stupid as someone else's obsession with football. But some football fans act like if you don't watch sports you're not a man. It's ridiculous.
Originally Posted By ecdc I'm liking Spokker's posts tonight. Post 18 couldn't sum up my feelings more. I really like watching football. Think it's a great sport. But I couldn't tell you who's who beyond the big names.
Originally Posted By DAR Packers Offense RT-Mark Tauscher RG-Josh Sitton C-Scott Wells LG-Darren Colledge LT-Chad Clifton QB-Aaron Rodgers RB-Ryan Grant FB-John Kuhn TE-Jeremichael Finley WR-Donald Driver WR-Greg Jennings Yes I am a fan
