Classic Films to 3D - Question for the Tech Minded

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    Originally Posted By Rebekah

    Not being someone who is versed in how films are brought into 3D. I'm curious to know if it is possible for classic Disney animated films to be translated into this new 3D format that is being used for Meet the Robinsons and other modern films.

    I assume they were able to do it with Nightmare Before Christmas after the fact because it was digital.

    Thanks for educating me.

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    Originally Posted By basil fan

    What a frightening thought!

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    Originally Posted By kennect

    I was under the idea that any film could be turned into a 3d experience with this new technology if someone put up the money to do such...Now what I want to know is when will they bring this new thing to the home market...
     
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    Originally Posted By kennect

    Rebekah, As a side note...Can you imagine what some of the old classics would look like considering the use of the multi-plane camera? The depth, I think, would be amazing...
     
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    Originally Posted By DlandDug

    Yes.

    That's the short answer.

    Nightmare was shot on traditional film. The Disney Digital 3-D system is digital. To make NBC 3-D, the entire film was recreated in digital form, but from a slightly different perspective. Hence, the illusion of a left eye and right eye was combined, and filtered through special glasses to fool the viewer into seeing depth and dimension.

    NBC was a perfect subject, because the objects being animated really were three dimensional to begin with. Jack, Sally and so on were actually posed inside completely built up three dimensional sets.

    Drawn animated films were never three dimensional. It is fairly easy to create 3-D versions of these, but they appear to be a series of flat images on different planes.

    To see a perfect example of this, go to Meet the Robinsons this weekend to enjoy "Working for Peanuts," a classic 1953 Donald Duck/Chip 'n Dale cartoon that was produced in 3-D. It looks like several flat cut outs. Contrast this with Meet the Robinsons, which was rendered in the computer as a group of three dimensional objects, existing within digital settings with depth.

    Another way to see how the classic cartoons would look in 3-D is to get some of the ViewMaster cartoon reels. These show the scenes as a series of flat cutout type images. This is in contrast to the beautifully sculpted ViewMaster reels, in which the Disney characters were rendered in three dimension and placed within fully detailed settings.

    To make "Sleeping Beauty" or "Fantasia" in 3-D, new technology would have to be developed to make flat drawings successfully mimic three dimensional objects and settings.
     
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    Originally Posted By Dlmusic

    <<To make "Sleeping Beauty" or "Fantasia" in 3-D, new technology would have to be developed to make flat drawings successfully mimic three dimensional objects and settings.>>

    The technology already kind of exists, what with cel-shading for CGI animation (e.g The Iron Giant). It would just require basically reanimating the entire movie. I don't think that technology could ever be quite so refined as to be able to do it on it's own without major tweaking.
     
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    Originally Posted By Rebekah

    Of course after I posted this I realized it was a silly question -- given that the classic short "Working for Peanuts" was going to appear in 3D.

    I wonder if this is a test to see audience response to classic in 3D.

    kennect -- I miss seeing the classic films on the big screen. Disney used to cycle them. Part of me hopes that this new technology will bring them back to the big screen. Although I suspect cost may outweigh the possible profits.

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    Originally Posted By Rebekah

    DlandDug,

    I'll have to dig up some of my viewmaster reels. I collect them. So I have many that would represent the examples you give, thanks.

    Plus I'll be seeing Meet the Robinsons today in 3D.

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    Originally Posted By eww4

    The 3D experience for Meet the Robinsons is great! And while "Working for Peanuts" looked like cutouts, it was still neat to see what the short subjects would look like in 3D - but I probably wouldn't see something like the animated features. The effect would distract from the experience.
     
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    Originally Posted By DlandDug

    >>Of course after I posted this I realized it was a silly question...<<

    The only silly question is the one that doesn't get asked!
     

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