Clinton/Clinton ticket...

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    Originally Posted By Mr X

    Seriously, Hillary (should she get the nod) will need to pick a running mate. Someone with appeal, experience, etc...

    How 'bout Bill?

    How weird would THAT be? lol.
     
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    Originally Posted By Dabob2

    Never in a million years.
     
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    Originally Posted By friendofdd

    If they won, she would constantly have to say to him "Bill I wear THE pants in this presidencey, but you still have to wear pants too.
     
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    Originally Posted By SingleParkPassholder

    Never happen. He couldn't succeed her in the event that was necessary, for one. He'll never get put on the Supreme Court, either. People who suggest that forget he was disbarred in Arkansas as a result of the Starr/Lewinsky/Jones messes. If she's elected, he'll be the First Gentleman, or some such thing.
     
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    Originally Posted By Mr X

    That's interesting, passholder.

    I thought I remember reading about Reagan offering the VP spot to Ford though...wouldn't the same rules apply? Or not, because Ford was never elected?

    If true, is it possible that Ford (in an alternate universe) could've been president for 2 terms more from 1976?

    Do you have to be a member of the bar to sit on the supreme court? I thought the president could select basically anyone (assuming they were approved by the Senate or whatever).
     
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    Originally Posted By Sport Goofy

    << He'll never get put on the Supreme Court, either. People who suggest that forget he was disbarred in Arkansas as a result of the Starr/Lewinsky/Jones messes. >>

    Since there's no requirement that a Supreme Court judge have a law degree or be an attorney, why would being disbarred have any bearing on the ability to be appointed?
     
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    Originally Posted By SingleParkPassholder

    As far as Clinton not being able to succeed, the 22nd Amendment, enacted and ratified after FDR, reads:

    Amendment 22 - Presidential Term Limits. Ratified 2/27/1951.

    1. No person shall be elected to the office of the President more than twice, and no person who has held the office of President, or acted as President, for more than two years of a term to which some other person was elected President shall be elected to the office of the President more than once. But this Article shall not apply to any person holding the office of President, when this Article was proposed by the Congress, and shall not prevent any person who may be holding the office of President, or acting as President, during the term within which this Article becomes operative from holding the office of President or acting as President during the remainder of such term.

    2. This article shall be inoperative unless it shall have been ratified as an amendment to the Constitution by the legislatures of three-fourths of the several States within seven years from the date of its submission to the States by the Congress.
     
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    Originally Posted By Mr X

    Yes, I'm aware of the amendment.

    I'm curious though how that would've pertained to Ford.

    Would he have had to step down for the 1984 re-election if he'd taken Reagan's original offer?

    Or, is it theoretically possible for someone to serve nearly 3 complete terms under that amendment?
     
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    Originally Posted By RoadTrip

    Well, at least you wouldn't have to worry about Slick Willy having sex in the Oval Office.

    :)
     
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    Originally Posted By Mr X

    Oh, never mind.

    10 years, looks like. That'd be the theoretical maximum.

    Interesting that it only specifically mentioned "elected", rather than serve.

    It would almost be possible for one to serve as VP multiple times and take the office multiple times (like Ford only over and over), so long as they only get elected the once (or never).

    You'd think they'd get rid of any loose ends like that.
     
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    Originally Posted By Kar2oonMan

    For served 2 years. He could have been elected two more times, serving a total of 10. That's the max.

    If a VP serves more than 2 years (should a president die or resign) then it counts as a full term. Ford took over halfway through Nixon's 2nd term, so he could have served a total of 10.
     
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    Originally Posted By SingleParkPassholder

    Well, look at Ford's background and put it up against the 22nd. He was never elected. He took office in August, 1974, so Nixon had served less than two years of his second term. He could have been elected to or served one more full term. So, had he accepted Reagan's offer, he could have succeeded him if necessary.
     
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    Originally Posted By Mr X

    So, Cheney missed his golden opportunity not getting rid of Bush last year then?
     
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    Originally Posted By SingleParkPassholder

    As for Bill on the court, the precedence for that is William Howard Taft. Taft had a distinguihed legal career before becoming President, so his appointment to the court made sense. Nominating Bill Clinton would be akin to Bush II nominating his cleaning lady, Harriet Miers. No real experience and no one will ever accuse him of being a legal scholar. Moreover, his disbarment occurred as a result of a deal for not prosecuting him for lying to a grand jury, hardly the background you'd want for a justice.
     
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    Originally Posted By Sport Goofy

    ^^
    But still not an official prohibition on him holding that position.

    Bill Clinton on the Supreme Court is unlikely, but not against the rules. Bill Clinton as VP is against the rules.
     
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    Originally Posted By SingleParkPassholder

    "But still not an official prohibition on him holding that position.

    Bill Clinton on the Supreme Court is unlikely, but not against the rules. Bill Clinton as VP is against the rules."

    it might as well be. The Senate has to pass the candidate as being fit for the job, and there's no way Clinton could be deemed as fit for that job.
     
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    Originally Posted By Mr X

    I'm surprised they wouldn't have some rule against appointing a previously impeached official.
     
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    Originally Posted By Kar2oonMan

    Even IF a Clinton/Clinton ticket were constitutionally allowed, I think politically it would be a disaster and wouldn't work. It would create a giant juicy target for the right to attack, and their voters would show up in droves. In a time when voters are saying they want change, nothing says change less than elected a former president.
     
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    Originally Posted By Sport Goofy

    << it might as well be. The Senate has to pass the candidate as being fit for the job, and there's no way Clinton could be deemed as fit for that job. >>

    Stranger things have happened. I mean look at the caliber of person who we put into the White House for the past 7 years!
     
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    Originally Posted By Kar2oonMan

    Dick Cheney was pretty high caliber. In a shoot a friend's face off kind of way.
     

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