Originally Posted By Labuda ...and ya know what? He was TOTALLY justified IMO. There's video here: <a href="http://blogs.seattleweekly.com/dailyweekly/2010/06/seattle_police_officer_caught.php" target="_blank">http://blogs.seattleweekly.com...ught.php</a> Stupid little girl (no idea if it's the 17-year-old or the 19-year-old) SHOVED the police officer after he friend was already being stupid. Heck, you even see a little boy try to hold back the girl in pink, then she breaks away from him and SHOVES the cop. So, the cop punches her. I feel the cop was completely justified in hitting her; anyone here disagree?
Originally Posted By SpokkerJones If I shoved a cop I would expect to be shot. I'm not sure how a jaywalking stop turns into an arrest, but these people achieved just that. I love to speculate. It's possible that the cop abused his power sometime before the video started rolling. In that case, you let it happen and then get a lawyer afterward, which sucks more or less depending on what it is. I don't know how a jaywalking stop alone could set somebody off like that. Tons of possible theories -Cop touched her inappropriately. -Chick was high as a kite. -Cop said something racist. Who knows?
Originally Posted By trekkeruss Cops are people too. If someone (or in this case two people) was fighting you, wouldn't you defend yourself? That's all he was doing, IMO.
Originally Posted By SpokkerJones Way better article here: <a href="http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/2010/06/16/2010-06-16_seattle_cop_punches_woman_in_face_over_routine_jaywalking_stop.html" target="_blank">http://www.nydailynews.com/new...top.html</a> Sounds like she was trying to evade an officer or something. If you would like to know if it's okay to leave, simply ask the officer politely, "Am I being detained or am I free to go?" That's how you know. But it was clear his intention was to bust them for jaywalking.
Originally Posted By trekkeruss <<it was clear his intention was to bust them for jaywalking.>> The two women weren't even the one's being stopped; it was a man who was stopped for jaywalking.
Originally Posted By KatieKate123 I am on the Cops side. Jaywalking could turn into more. If he pulls someone over for jaywalking expects hes been doing drugs/or drinking it could of turned into this easily. Recently in Maryland a police officer was killed for just trying to calm someone down. They need to be able to protect themselves.
Originally Posted By Dabob2 If the cops in NY busted people for jaywalking you'd have 8 million inmates.
Originally Posted By gurgitoy2 "If the cops in NY busted people for jaywalking you'd have 8 million inmates. " LOL, seriously! I see people crossing feet from the crosswalk here...how hard is it to just use it? I just don't do it because I don't trust the cabs...they are crazy drivers and I've almost been hit even when using the crosswalk...
Originally Posted By SpokkerJones "The two women weren't even the one's being stopped" The officer saw them jaywalk and asked to come over to his vehicle.
Originally Posted By SpokkerJones "If the cops in NY busted people for jaywalking you'd have 8 million inmates. " Only if all of them shove the officer.
Originally Posted By SpokkerJones In the video you eventually see a pen and the pad. I'm guessing he put down the citation when the girl started getting unruly.
Originally Posted By imadisneygal She's lucky she wasn't tased or worse. With so many other people around and no idea what they might have on them in the form of weapons that isn't a safe situation for the police officer. She got off pretty easy in my opinion. Obviously it's not ideal to have police officers punching people, but she assaulted him first.
Originally Posted By Dabob2 <<"If the cops in NY busted people for jaywalking you'd have 8 million inmates. ">> <Only if all of them shove the officer.> This is NY we're talking about. They would. "Are you kiddin' me heah? For jaywalkin'? Are you from freakin' Dubuque or somethin'" (Except they wouldn't say "freakin.'") < just don't do it because I don't trust the cabs...they are crazy drivers and I've almost been hit even when using the crosswalk...> Boy howdy. I won't jaywalk either if I look down the street and see yellow. Because they'll be on top of you faster than you'd ever think possible. Any other color and I'll do it - gotta save that extra 5 seconds you save by not actually crossing at the corner... The height of the bike messenger era (80's-early 90's) was actually the most dangerous time to be a pedestrian in NY. Because they had no compunction about going the wrong way on a one-way street or darting out of impossibly small spaces. Now THOSE guys were kamikazes.
Originally Posted By Kar2oonMan This is why I could never be a cop. You have a couple of unruly little snots getting in the officer's face, surrounded by a crowd of idiots with the catcalls, whipping everything up to the next level. The cop winds up in trouble, the jugheads who fired the situation up in the first place walk off laughing and cackling to post on YouTube.
Originally Posted By mele My husband has gotten a ticket for jaywalking (we live in a Seattle suburb). Everyone I've spoken to is on the side of the cop, also. It amazes me how snotty kids are; they think they should be able to get away with anything. Sick of it. Never in a million years would I have talked back and shoved a police officer, not now, nor at 17 years old. That street is crazy busy, busy enough for them to build a pedestrian bridge but this group was just too damn lazy to use it. I get so sick of people walking in the middle of the street because they're too lazy to walk an additional 30 feet to the crosswalk. (I think they deserve to be run over but I digress...) And her snotty butt didn't look to be in any pain while she sat, pouting in the back of the cop car. I didn't see any red marks on her face and her eyes weren't tearing up (in fear, remorse or from getting punched-quite a feat, imo.)
Originally Posted By mele Oops, I would and have talked back to a cop while dealing with some issues with my son. Never would I do it if I was caught jaywalking or after I knowingly did something wrong.
Originally Posted By Kar2oonMan This is very reminiscent to me of the case of a BART police officer shooting a person, the trial of the officer is happening now (the trial is in Los Angeles because finding a jury here would have been impossible). It's a different, more tragic outcome, for sure, but like this incident, it was a whole band of idiots screaming and yelling and trying to escalate the situation. Hooting and catcalling, provoking, trying to whip up a frenzy.
Originally Posted By mele 2oony, I've seen a few different newscasts about it as I live in the area. The clip I saw yesterday was definitely the same girl, the one in pink...she looked so pouty and snotty. Meh
Originally Posted By LPFan22 Seeing the officer punch with a closed fist makes me think he lost his temper and made a knee-jerk reaction. I bet he felt surrounded. I didn't see any backup. He could have been seriously hurt. And what was that girl thinking?? I can't believe some people think it's okay to get in an officer's face like that. He definitely could have shot her.
