Originally Posted By Darkbeer <a href="http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/11/11/AR2005111101833_pf.html" target="_blank">http://www.washingtonpost.com/ wp-dyn/content/article/2005/11/11/AR2005111101833_pf.html</a> >>The Democratic National Committee under Howard Dean is losing the fundraising race against Republicans by nearly 2 to 1, a slow start that is stirring concern among strategists who worry that a cash shortage could hinder the party's competitiveness in next year's midterm elections. The former Vermont governor and presidential candidate took the chairmanship of the national party eight months ago, riding the enthusiasm of grass-roots activists who relished his firebrand rhetorical style. But he faced widespread misgivings from establishment Democrats, including elected officials and Washington operatives, who questioned whether Dean was the right fit in a job that traditionally has centered on fundraising and the courting of major donors. Now, the latest financial numbers are prompting new doubts. From January through September, the Republican National Committee raised $81.5 million, with $34 million remaining in the bank. The Democratic National Committee, by contrast, showed $42 million raised and $6.8 million in the bank. "The degree to which the fundraising has not been competitive is obviously troublesome," said former congressman Vic Fazio (D-Calif.), who is now a lobbyist here. He expressed confidence in Tom McMahon, Dean's executive director at the DNC. One House Democratic leadership aide, who spoke on the condition of anonymity to preserve relations with Dean's operation, put it more bluntly: "There is plenty of time, but the red flashing sirens should be going off there."<<
Originally Posted By ecdc Gee, I guess given the thrashing Republicans just took in the election, this is the best Darkbeer's got. So Republicans are rich and give money to their cause - what a shock. Of course, given the Bush tax cuts, they have more money to pump into their own party.
Originally Posted By cmpaley Wait...I thought that the evil unions were omnipotent and could just take money from their members to keep democrats afloat. Unless, of course, it IS true that corporations generally outspend unions by a WIDE margin...
Originally Posted By RC Collins Corporations get money from voluntary customers and investors. Unions tax their members. The Democrats can count on hundreds of millions of dollars of support from the unions, they can rest assured. They'll also get hefty donations from people who have made money cutting up live babies, people who fight to protect their freedom to practice their business even to the point where the babies are at full term. Gotta be proud of that! If those places were so good at family planning, they wouldn't need to be performing those lucrative abortions. Getting contraception from an abortion provider...hmmmmmm... Getting back to the funding... the Democrats will do fine. Remember, they have Hollywood, and most corporations donate to BOTH major parties.
Originally Posted By StillThePassHolder This doesn't make sense. I thought the reason Democrats won in Virginia and New Jersey was because they out-spent the Republicans. At least, that what we were told on this board.
Originally Posted By StillThePassHolder "I don't recall anyone saying that." Why do you do this to yourself? <a href="http://mb.laughingplace.com/default.asp?WCI=MsgBoard&WCE=T-69181-P-2&Refresh=1112205211" target="_blank">http://mb.laughingplace.com/de fault.asp?WCI=MsgBoard&WCE=T-69181-P-2&Refresh=1112205211</a> DouglasDubh Wed 11/9/2005 9:40p "Corzine outspent Forrester by a large margin." <a href="http://mb.laughingplace.com/default.asp?WCI=MsgBoard&WCE=T-69181-P-4&Refresh=1112205608" target="_blank">http://mb.laughingplace.com/de fault.asp?WCI=MsgBoard&WCE=T-69181-P-4&Refresh=1112205608</a> 37 DouglasDubh Thu 11/10/2005 12:00p <How fun it would be to take this whining about spending on the campaigns and compare it to other elections.> "I don't see it as whining. I see it as pointing out facts."
Originally Posted By DouglasDubh Neither of those posts says that the Democrats won because they spent more. And, in fact, in post 41 I explicity said that it wasn't money alone that cause the Democrat wins.
Originally Posted By Darkbeer Interesting to note (from the Drudge Report...) >>DNC CHAIRMAN HOWARD DEAN REFUSES TO APPEAR ON SET WITH RNC CHAIR DURING TOMORROW 'MEET THE PRESS', SOURCES TELL DRUDGE... DEAN ONLY AGREED TO BACK-TO-BACK INTERVIEWS ON NBC WITH RIVAL... <<
Originally Posted By Darkbeer Actually, I wish the Governor actually would have debated with the other side, I think it was one of many mistakes made in the last election.... But both parties chairmen have appeared together on shows like this for years, and it is a sign that things are changing.....
Originally Posted By Darkbeer <a href="http://www.drudgereport.com/flash5d.htm" target="_blank">http://www.drudgereport.com/fl ash5d.htm</a> >>Dem Chair Dean Ducks Last Second Joint MEET THE PRESS Appearance With GOP Chair Mehlman The DRUDGE REPORT has learned from exclusive sources that Democrat Party Chair Howard Dean turned down Republican Party Chair Ken Mehlman’s last minute offer to appear together on NBC’s MEET THE PRESS this morning. Moments before taping was to begin with host Tim Russert, Mehlman asked Dean outside the NBC studio’s green room: “There’s still time for us to go on together Governor.†Dean declined with a shrug of his shoulders and an uncomfortable cackle and then proceeded to walk away into the green room. DRUDGE has learned MEET THE PRESS producers have been working to get a head to head Dean/Mehlman appearance on the program since Dean was named chair back in February. Dean and his handlers have repeatedly turned down the request. The former Vermont governor only agreed to do this week’s program if they appeared in back-to-back interviews. Mehlman brought up Dean’s unwillingness to appear alongside him during the show: “I was hoping that Chairman Dean would be on sitting next to me this morning. Maybe we can do that on a future program. Look, he's somebody I've enjoyed getting to know. We meet in a lot of green rooms….†Tim Russert: “We invited him -- do you have a question for him?†Former Dem Party Chair Terry McAuliffe participated in regular head-to-head appearances with his Republican counterparts during his tenure from ‘01 to ‘05. McAuliffe went head-to-head with Republican chairmen at least five times on MEET THE PRESS alone, going up against past GOP chairs Ed Gillespie (twice), Marc Racicot (twice) and Jim Gilmore (once). This weekend on ABC’s THIS WEEK the Democrat heads of the Democratic Senatorial Campaign Committee (DSCC), Sen. Chuck Schumer, and the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee (DCCC), Rep. Rahm Emanuel, both appeared head-to-head with their Republican committee counterparts Sen. Elizabeth Dole and Rep. Tom Reynolds.<<
Originally Posted By Dabob2 I watched that Meet the Press, and I have no idea if it's true or not, but Dean said that the GOP 2 to 1 funding gap is actually smaller than previously - he said it was 3 to 1 earlier. How much earlier, or what he based that on I don't know - but it's worth noting.
Originally Posted By Beaumandy Dean likes to make his moonbat statements unchallenged and free of cross examination. Can you imagine this guy in an actual debate with Mehlman? Dean would get destroyed of course. Something I could NOT believe was that Dean today acually ADMITTED the dems have no plans or platform at the present time and their only game plan is to bash Bush. What a great party... Oh, the "Bush lied!m" BS is slowly starting to backfire on the libs as the quotes from dems who said Saddam had WMD's keep coming out.
Originally Posted By Dabob2 So Beau, can you actually SHOW that Dean misspoke and that the gap between GOP and Dem. fundraising has not shrunk... or do you just want to repeat the same talking points yet again?
Originally Posted By Beaumandy <<So Beau, can you actually SHOW that Dean misspoke and that the gap between GOP and Dem. fundraising has not shrunk... >> I never brought fundraising up. But Dean is losing the fundraising race 2 to 1. My point about Dean is that he lies to the camera and everyone knows it. He's a clown.
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