Originally Posted By SuperDry I know that every time I say this, it's not long before my own experience upstages me, but I'll say it anyway: Now I've seen everything. Tonight, on POTC, I witnessed a baby having his diaper changed on a POTC bateau just after we left the loading station. I was in the rearmost row, and this event happened in the second-to-last row. I think they caught my evil eye (although I was more astonished than disgusted at the time) and tried to hide what they were doing from view, but it's quite unmistakable when you see a baby on his back with his legs sticking up in the air as a white padded undergarment is being pulled off and a replacement put on. There's absolutely no doubt as to what they were doing. Have we digressed this far as a society? And if that weren't enough, they then proceeded to take flash pictures of the new Captain Jack AA's.
Originally Posted By Goofyernmost I've been saying it for years now. This country, and perhaps the world, has lost all sense of decorum. We have no class. By that I don't mean structured layers of social standing, I mean self respect or even the slightest knowledge of life beyond oneself. No class...no class at all!
Originally Posted By Mr X to play devils advocate, just for a second...could you leave room for the possibility that the parents might have just discovered that their little one "made a present"...which was perhaps foul smelling...and just maybe they were trying to "change out" as quick as possible so that those of you on the ride (like poor SuperDry) wouldn't have to suffer through a long boat ride of stinky kid?? (just a thought)
Originally Posted By Mr X to play devils advocate, once again...(just so we don't go with "America sucks" although goody did write "and perhaps the world")...I have seen with my own eyes, at Tokyo Disneyland, parents pulling their kids pants down in order to urinate in front of the Haunted Mansion line...as well as some other stuff that I don't think needs to be repeated here (trust me, it's worst than the kid going pee in front of the mansion!). SuperDry...trust me when I tell you, *I'VE* seen it all.
Originally Posted By sherrytodd Being a mother and knowing that there's no controlling when or where that diaper is going to fill, I agree with Mr. X; I'd be more upset over the flash photography.
Originally Posted By lilgoofymom First off, Hello, this is my first post. Now, This past week in the Food Court of our local mall I witnessed a diaper change at the table next to mine. The "ladies" were dressed very upper class but their image was blown when they just changed junior right there. To make matters worse there was a restroom with changing tables within view of where we were sitting. America has not gone completely down the tubes, but people like this are really trying to drag us down fast. Absoultely no apologies and not even acting embarrassed about what they are doing.
Originally Posted By lilgoofymom Oh yeah, I am a mother. However, it has been 14 years since I've had to change a diaper. I never would have changed my daughter's diapers in such a public place. We took advantage of the Diaper station in the Magic Kingdom when the need would arise. I don't even know if it is still there. That was a nice place to handle "baby buisness" like feeding, changing and such.
Originally Posted By ssWEDguy You know what I would have done? Gotten out my flash camera and taken pictures of the procedure as it was being performed. The closer up the pictures the better. Then just wait to hear the couple complain about the guy taking pictures of their naked child in a public place.
Originally Posted By Disneybrad We had the same thing happen a few weeks back on Journey Into Imagination. I just hope the people that saw it let the CM's know, first thing we did was stop loading that train till we were able to get custodial there to sanitize and clean the train.
Originally Posted By Mr X Hi, LilGM! Welcome to LP! **To make matters worse there was a restroom with changing tables within view of where we were sitting.** No excuse there! Just stupid and rude people! I have to give a "slight" bit more consideration to parents stuck on a boat...(that was my "devils advocate" reaction). But no...it's pretty messed up and rude and stupid, and everything else...
Originally Posted By SuperDry <<< to play devils advocate, just for a second...could you leave room for the possibility that the parents might have just discovered that their little one "made a present"...which was perhaps foul smelling...and just maybe they were trying to "change out" as quick as possible so that those of you on the ride (like poor SuperDry) wouldn't have to suffer through a long boat ride of stinky kid?? >>> If they were concerned about the well-being of their fellow guests, they should have not gotten on the ride. They could have easily told the CM at the loading platform of the situation - I'm sure they would have been excused to the restroom and then allowed to board through the exit without having to wait in line again. <<< I have to give a "slight" bit more consideration to parents stuck on a boat >>> We weren't "stuck" on the boat. This changing operation started immediately upon leaving the loading station, so they boarded the boat knowing that they were going to do this. And keep in mind that this is WDW's POTC - what is it, like a 7-minute voyage? Also, if they had done this for the benefit of those around them, they would not have had the slightly guilty and embarassed expression on their faces that they did.
Originally Posted By Goofyernmost I have to agree that the story just triggered a nerve in me that is saddened by the way I see society going. This POTC thing was probably not in the same category but it just served to remind me of the kids, many of them from families that were far from deprived, on the streets, in public places with Grandmothers and children, using every curse word they can conjure up. Young girls with everything showing. No self respect...just the desire to defy and shock. Sadly, for them, they don't shock anymore they just cause me to shake my head and wonder where they are headed. I'm aware that every generation has been criticized by the one or two before it but it seems to me that the direction they are headed is far more dangerous and uncertain then in the past. You cannot like others if you hate yourself and it seems like that is what I see.
Originally Posted By sherrytodd OK, then I agree, they should have excused themselves for the benefit of junior and riden the ride later. And, changing the baby in the food court when there is a changing station nearby is disgusting.
Originally Posted By mrichmondj I think I would have given this group more than the evil eye. I wouldn't be nasty or anything, but sometimes when you vocalize your concerns to a group it has greater effect than just body language. And even if it doesn't stop the behavior, people are less likely to repeat behavior again if they think someone will give them vocal criticism about it.
Originally Posted By bobbelee9 Yes to ssWEDguy! If the parents were being so considerate of their fellow riders by getting rid of the smell, what did they do with the dirty diaper, throw it overboard? Disgusting people.
Originally Posted By SuperDry ^^^ They stuffed it into their bag. At least they did that. I used to know someone that did parking lot custodial at a shopping mall, and he told me that every day, they would have 2-3 soiled diapers just left on the ground in the parking lot. Parents would change their little ones once they got back to the car, and just dump the old ones on the ground. Some people can be real pigs.
Originally Posted By disneydad109 I was eating at Gemany with wife one year and the people we were FORCED to sit with started passing a baby back and forth cross the table till someone would change the dirty nappie. This also called for a talk about how bad it smelled. Made my meal !
Originally Posted By lilgoofymom Thanks for the welcome Mr.X. I always felt that the people who "dump" their used diapers in a public place (other than a trash can) should have to wear it on their head. We always carried plastic store bags and tied the soiled diaper into it and tossed it into the trash at home. We got out of many lines at WDW when my daughter was a baby to change a diaper or to feed her. She was worth the effort.
Originally Posted By DVC_dad The flash was rude, however, if the diaper wasn't you know "dirty" I don't have a huge problem with it. I would NOT have done it myself, but well it is what it is.
