Originally Posted By ecdc <a href="http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/disneyland-consider-allowing-segways-court-351825" target="_blank">http://www.hollywoodreporter.c...t-351825</a> >>The U.S. 9th Circuit Court of Appeals has reversed a ruling, saying Disney now must "consider using or adapting" new technologies to assist the disabled.<<
Originally Posted By oodelally This may sound bad, but it is really not. I am asking a serious question here. I understand walking is more physically intensive, but if you are dis-abled and have to have an aparatus to help you move around instead of walking, how can you stand and lean on a segway for 12 to 16 hours? once again this is a real question I am asking. I do not have a lot of experience in this area.
Originally Posted By Dr Hans Reinhardt While I understand the Court's desire to require businesses to accommodate all customers equally, I don't totally agree with this decision. Wouldn't a Segway be unnavigable in a crowded theme park, not to mention a potentially dangerous hazard for pedestrians? There seems to be some important details missing from this article on how this is going to be resolved.
Originally Posted By fkurucz >>Wouldn't a Segway be unnavigable in a crowded theme park, not to mention a potentially dangerous hazard for pedestrians?<< Just the thought of attempting to navigate a segway through Adventureland on a crowded day is risible. I don't even see how people manage the ubiquitous scooters in that perpetual traffic jam.
Originally Posted By crapshoot <<Wouldn't a Segway be unnavigable in a crowded theme park, not to mention a potentially dangerous hazard for pedestrians?>> Oh, none of this makes the least amount of sense. Very few cities allow Segways on their sidewalks, but a theme park must for the public to have a much fuller experience? Hog wash!
Originally Posted By gurgitoy2 I don't quite understand how segways are used by disabled people either. It requires standing all the time. In the article it mentioned a woman with muscular dystrophy, and I don't quite understand how a segway helped her where a wheelchair or scooter couldn't?
Originally Posted By sjhym333 I know a woman who uses a Segway to get around everywhere for medical reasons. I cant begin to relate the whole thing here but the short of it has to do with her heart which I gather exhausts her when she does actual walking but doesn't when using the Segway. Different muscles and exertion I guess.
Originally Posted By WilliamK99 I know a woman who uses a Segway to get around everywhere for medical reasons. I cant begin to relate the whole thing here but the short of it has to do with her heart which I gather exhausts her when she does actual walking but doesn't when using the Segway. Different muscles and exertion I guess.<< Should someone with heart issues be riding many of the rides at Disneyland? I can see the Segway being abused just like the "handicap" system at Disneyland is abused today. Disney legally can't ask for proof, so anyone can go to City Hall, get a wheelchair and cheat the system. I see same thing happening in this case..
Originally Posted By sjhym333 Not for me to say who should ride attractions at Disneyland. I will say that she has better control over her Segway than many of the folks I see who rent the electric wheelchairs.
Originally Posted By oodelally WilliamK99 - I had not thought about the heart conditions. But I still don't see a reason why there is anything from barring her using a cart or chair inside Disneyland. One thing I just recently thought of is how easy it is for a segway to go out of control. Just thinking about it, you could win americas funniest videos! She leans the wrong way coming off of Pirates, tries to dodge the people and BAM, hits the railing and flips into the Rivers of America. 10,000 Dollars! If they make Disneyland accept segways I am totally carrying a video camera every time I go.
Originally Posted By Manfried I think Disney should appeal higher. This court is usually overturned. And a wheelchair provides the same kind of access as a Segway. The person who filed the suit is another one of those annoying "entitled" spoiled brats who wants things their way, regardless of the impact on others. Well boo hoo hoo. The first time one of those riders rams me, I'm going to sue them into the ground. Then they'll be disabled and broke.
Originally Posted By wa6oqc If required by courts, I think that Disney should require them to have liability insurance. Typically a $1,000,000 can be purchased at a reasonable price. A Segway in a crowd just isn't stable. Using a much more stable wheel chair could save Disney a lot of money!
Originally Posted By TP2000 We constantly have people online who get those silly GAC cards who claim they are disabled and somehow unable to "stand" in long lines. They are perfectly fine to stand in lines in the rest of society, but when it comes to Disneyland we are told they have such-and-such bone disorder that makes it painful to stand in one place for more than a few minutes so they MUST have the GAC card to cut the line and fulfill their life's leisure desires. They are too humiliated to rent a wheelchair, or their such-and-such disorder is aggravated by sitting in a wheelchair and so that's out. They can't stand in line, they can't sit in line, they can't be around too many people in line, they must keep moving and never wait more than 10 minutes for anything. (By the way, they usually LOVE to watch World of Color or Alladin or Fantasmic standing or sitting in place for 45 minutes, but that doesn't count because it's a show they want to see. It's not a boring Standby line.) Knowing all that, and knowing that some otherwise very nice person will show up shortly to explain to me how they are now "offended!" by my brusque comments, it is absolutely no surprise that there will be a growing population of people who will show up at Disneyland with their personal Segways and insist it is their right to ride them around the park to help their disability and handicap and personal tragedy that can only be cured by regular visits to Disneyland. Puke. And now someone is "offended!" in 5, 4, 3, 2...
Originally Posted By Dr Hans Reinhardt ^^ Those scenarios are hilarious. I know, I'm a horrible person.
Originally Posted By oc_dean I'm sure those vehicles are heavy. Imagine your feet getting under those wheels in some very tightly congested areas .. like exiting Fantasmic? Or just after a parade ... or fireworks .. or really .. just about any time any place in the parks .. with DL being packed to the rafters these days.
Originally Posted By crapshoot <<I'm sure those vehicles are heavy. Imagine your feet getting under those wheels in some very tightly congested areas. . . >> Segways have a footpring of 33" wide by 25" deep. That's not too bad when compared by the lower tech - 3 wheeler "segway" wanna-be's.Those are monsterous. Segways have no business inside stores. They are too unwieldly when in tight quarters. Can you imagine the lengths that Opps would have to go to to create Segway friendly ride vehicles? Mark my words, they will ruin it for everyone. Eventually a trip to Disneyland will start out by dawning your personal virtual reality glasses, buckle in to your comfy recliner and spend a day at DL with friends and family.
Originally Posted By believe if you didn't know, there are modified Segway wheelchairs. Look it up on youtube - <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SeDecBCaT1U" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v...ecBCaT1U</a> They are pretty much the size and look of electric wheelchairs or even smaller.
Originally Posted By crapshoot <<They are pretty much the size and look of electric wheelchairs or even smaller.>> But they don't address the issue of those who are demanding that they have a medical need to stand, but not walk.
