Originally Posted By jkayjs My daughter is taking me to Cypress Gardens on Sat and since I have never been I thought I would check out their web site. While looking for a park map I found a pop up that had "Park Rules" as it's first topic. They include almost everything even what can not be on visible tatoos. There is a basis dress code that includes what they refer to as "gang" look as well as behavior that will not be tolerated. You need to check it out to get the full effect. My question is does WDW need some type of "Park Rules" list that is given to all guest on entering the parks. Not specifically this one but something that addresses the outragous, borish, slovenly and sometimes dangerous behavior of some of the guests. I know that many may not read it but if it was part of the park entry procedure and then enforced it might improve the park experience for all of us. Just a thought.
Originally Posted By MmmOranges I don't think that Disney should hand out a "park rules" list. In general, I think the general public has respect for Disney, and knows what is and what isn't tolerated in the parks. In my opinion, Disney does a pretty good job at keeping behavior in the parks under control in a not so in-your-face fashion, if you know what I mean. I like it that way. *Kristen*
Originally Posted By vbdad55 While my knee jerk reaction is Yes , they need rules based on behavior deterioration, when I think longer about it, what would printing these rules mean ? Would the people who are really slobs and act rudely really start to change ? My guess is, they wouldn;t even read the rules, as they tend to feel rules don't apply to them anyway. Would it make it easier to eject someone from the park for rules infractions...maybe legally if the rules are on the media...but then are we going to ask the CM's to enforce this ? Will they be able to ? And would we be willng to add more 'security' personnel to the parks to accomplish this....all fair questions.
Originally Posted By jkayjs This is exactly why I posed this question. I have never seen this before and wondered what others take on it would be. I'm not exactly sure where I stand myself but thought it would be a good topic for discussion. BTW you should check out the list really, it was the last thing I expected to find and took me off guard.
Originally Posted By alexbook As usual, I'm speaking from DLR rather than WDW experience, but I've noticed lists of park rules on the web site, on the free park maps that are handed out at the entrance, and on posted signs. They're generally in teeny, tiny, itsy, bitsy print, and most people probably never notice or read them. They're down there with the legal notices about liability waivers and such.
Originally Posted By fundog58 Never mind what Disney should do, I'm still getting over the shock that Cypress Gardens, of all places, is worried about gangs. I haven't been there since they've added the rides, so maybe that has changed the demographics. My wife and I, both in our 40's, visited about five years ago, and that day I think we were two of the youngest people there.
Originally Posted By Kimrue I think a list of rules should be included on guidemaps. I think if the subject is kept light...such as having goofy hold a list of rules and at the end a reminder that it's for safety. If you can get away with suggesting the limits are for safety sake. It shouldn't be a problem. Now as far as a visable tatoo being a "problem" that may seem over the top, however what if it were a tatoo of a nazi symbol or a confederate flag with a slur under it. That could be a HUGE problem. When making rules you can't nickle and dime. While a cute little rose on your ankle seems harmless, the tatoos I've described above could potentially cause a violent situation. Also keep in mind rules are made because there is a NEED for them. If a rule seems bizarre it's because there has been a significant problem with a specific situation. If it says no visable tatoos there obviously was an issue with a tatoo.
Originally Posted By FerretAfros Way back when, Disneyland (and I assume WDW too) had a very strict dress code. People had to be quite presentable to be let in the gate. Over time, these rules have been relaxed. I see no reason that people should have a problem with some of these rules coming back. It has been scientifically proven that people who are more dressed up behave better. Does this mean that everybody should dress like they're going to the prom so Junior doesn't pee in a bush? No, but maybe we could make the rules a little stronger. I really don't see how it could hurt any.
Originally Posted By fundog58 <<Those AARP gangs can be mighty tough too !>> LOL, vbdad55. You don't want to get in their way when it's time for those early bird specials.
Originally Posted By jkayjs Just to be clear it didn't say no visible tatoos just what can't be on visible tatoos.
Originally Posted By brotherdave When I visited Cypress Gardens in June, they were the only park that used hand held metal detectors on each guest as we entered, along with standard metal detectors! In fact, neither Disney nor Universal used metal detectors (but I remember Universal using them for Halloween Horror Nights only a few years ago). Busch Gardens did use standardc metal detectors, if I recall correctly. My guess is that due to the thrill rides in the park (though the coasters there are hardly thrilling as they're all 'junior' sized models!), Cypress Gardens might be afraid of luring teenage gangs.
Originally Posted By Spirit of 74 WDW absitively, posilutely needs a CODE OF CONDUCT. It should be handed to every guest when they enter, so no one can say they didn't know. It should be quite explicit on what is NOT appropriate. It should then be enforced to the point where there's a front-page Orlando Sentinel story on the white trash family from (fill in the blank) that spit at CMs or didn't listen when they were asked to come back over he railings at Epcot during Iluminations or decided it was OK to change their child's diaper in the middle of the Liberty Tree Tavern and when discretely asked to take the child to the restroom started cursing at the CMs etc ... had their magical $7,000 WDW vacation ruined and were now criminals. A code will never happen because the above example would. And WDW cares more about bad publicity than it cares about removing boorish guests that should be at Six Flags!
Originally Posted By ssWEDguy >> a visible tattoo << I find this one interesting. They won't let a GUEST in with a visable tattoo? At Disney it's the CM's that can't show a tattoo. (Sorry -- "Body art") But have you seen the tattoos on some people these days? They'd have to wear a snowmobile suit to cover it over. What is it with all the tattooing going on? (1) >> snowmobile suit<< Yes, I'm from Minnesota. (2) No, I don't do tattoos. I think they're stupid. Not attractive at all. Wear some jewelry instead. (3) Trying to remember my 3rd point.... I must have had one...
Originally Posted By ssWEDguy The reason for a posted list of rules (no matter how small) is so they can legally do something if they need to or choose to. No one reads the rules until the day they get challenged on something. Especially the types of people who do things against rules which are mostly simple, common sense, and that most people honor already.
Originally Posted By Disneymom443 Disney to me always had the unwritten rule. ....Well at lest I know I follow it.
Originally Posted By jkayjs I'm sorry if I didn't make myself clear. Guests can have visible tatoos they just have rules about what can not be on their tatoos. I hope the third times a charm and I said it better this time sorry for the confusion.
Originally Posted By disneydad109 I am sure that there is already a very strict code of conduct in place. That code is set and enforce by the group which I call "the parents".
Originally Posted By ssWEDguy >> Guests can have visible tatoos they just have rules about what can not be on their tatoos << Thanks for the clarify -- this makes much more sense. A visible, objectionable tattoo then is no different than an objectionable t-shirt.
Originally Posted By MmmOranges <Disney to me always had the unwritten rule.> Exactly what I was thinking! *Kristen*
