Originally Posted By FoxHound I just got my copy of "The Disney Mountains: Imagineering at Its Peak" and the afterward by Tony Baxter includes what reads like a possible hint about the next new mountain: "Or perhaps, as with Big Thunder Mountain and Expedition Everest, the real mountains of the world will inspire our creations---the eerie "Dragon's Teeth" mountains along the Li River in China, for example---I can only guess as to what mysteries lie deep within such natural wonders." The book also does mention the dragon rollercoaster initially planned for Beastly Kingdom in Animal Kingdom, and never says this idea has been cancelled for good.
Originally Posted By irishfan Thats interesting, I've just ordered the book so I'm looking forward to getting my hands on it. I've actually cruised the Li river, the mountains there are absoulutely stunning. What are the chances of them putting another mountain into Asia at the AK though?
Originally Posted By trekkeruss I'd say somewhere between zero and zip, just like Beastly Kingdom itself.
Originally Posted By DLer Would it not seem a possibility that Disney might find a place for a clone of the DisneySea Journey to the Center of the Earth ride somewhere in WDW? Thematically such an attraction could fit in Fantasyland (just as the old 20K Leagues sub ride did), in the Studios (although there might be a space problem there) or in DAK (with perhaps a theme change). As we have seen with ToT and Splash Mt., cloning has been a standard Disney practice over the years.
Originally Posted By trekkeruss I'd say no. Besides being way too expensive for one single attraction (notice nothing from TDR has been cloned), Journey is a clone itself.... it's Test Track on steroids.
Originally Posted By Bob Paris Yeah, because thematically and show-wise they are exactly the same. rolls eyes
Originally Posted By gurgitoy2 It's like saying Snow White's Scary Adventures and Alice in Wonderland are clones because they use the same ride system. Test Track and Journey to the Center of the earth only share the ride system, not track layout, show sets, or anything else.
Originally Posted By Bob Paris I was thinking the same thing. It'd be like somebody riding HM at the MK in 1990 and then going to Epcot Centre and deciding to skip WoM because it is also an omnimover.
Originally Posted By davewasbaloo I have just ordered this book and should get it in 40 days (it is not yet released here). Can't wait to read it. I love Jason's other two.
Originally Posted By trekkeruss I realize the only thing TT and JTTCOTE share is the ride system, but I just cannot imagine TWDC spending big money on one single attraction the way OLC does. And really, If they were going to build a second JTTCOTE, you just know everyone will complain if it isn't to the level of TDS's, with a caldera you could walk around, volcanic eruptions, and all the other details present at the Tokyo park that make the attraction great. I for one do not want to see a budget version of Journey.
Originally Posted By brotherdave We may not see another mountain for Asia at Animal Kingdom, but, there are other areas of the park that mountains could 'rise'. I'm still hoping that a new mountain will rise someday at the Magic Kingdom!
Originally Posted By plpeters70 I'd still like to see one in the World Showcase. It's really too bad they never built Mt. Fuji - that would have looked cool from across the lagoon!!
Originally Posted By mstaft I'd love a Polnesia area in DAK- with dolphins, tropical aviary, fish, boat ride- and a big old volcano...
Originally Posted By TMICHAEL ^^^Ooh yeah, but instead of a generic Lava Monster from JTTCOTE, have some really cool effects where you're intruding on Pele, the goddess of fire and volcanos, really getting her pissed off. At the climax of her chasing you, she unleashes the huge Lava Beast to rid her mountain of the trespassers. And since you don't have any Vodka to appease her, she sets 2 or 3 of these huge beasts after you finally hurtling you down the mountain. This way, we'd get more large AA's and you could plus the ride and make it even more thrilling by making it more of a roller coaster type of experience. With multiple drops inside the volcano and state of the art illusions throughout. I mean really, JTTCOTE for all its bells and whistles only has one major AA and one drop. Ok, that was only with 2 minutes of armchair imagineering, so don't be too harsh.
Originally Posted By DLer Trek: So if you went to DisneySea you'd skip JTTCOTE because you had already been on Test Track? The queue experience alone at JTTCOTE, based upon what I have seen in video, looks like it would be worth the trip.
Originally Posted By bobbelee9 <<^^^Ooh yeah, but instead of a generic Lava Monster from JTTCOTE, have some really cool effects where you're intruding on Pele, the goddess of fire and volcanos, really getting her pissed off. At the climax of her chasing you, she unleashes the huge Lava Beast to rid her mountain of the trespassers. And since you don't have any Vodka to appease her, she sets 2 or 3 of these huge beasts after you finally hurtling you down the mountain. This way, we'd get more large AA's and you could plus the ride and make it even more thrilling by making it more of a roller coaster type of experience. With multiple drops inside the volcano and state of the art illusions throughout. I mean really, JTTCOTE for all its bells and whistles only has one major AA and one drop.>>> Great, but how about a walk-through for those of us who would love to see that, but don't have the stomach to ride it. Same with Splash Mt & EE.
Originally Posted By DLer "This way, we'd get more large AA's and you could plus the ride and make it even more thrilling by making it more of a roller coaster type of experience." Exactly - a clone doesn't mean that every aspect of the ride must be reproduced as before - even the "clone" ToT's and Splash Mt's all have their differences. A new Mysterious Island area in Fantasyland at MK might be a nice addition to the park to help combat what will be a significant amount of new competition when IOA brings in the Harry Potter section of that park in a few years.
Originally Posted By TDR_Fan <<I mean really, JTTCOTE for all its bells and whistles only has one major AA and one drop.>> The launched drop is very nice and so is the lava monster, but the highlight of the attraction for me is the elaborate theming in the sets. Like the Crystal Caverns, Mushroom Forest, Subterranean Sea, etc. I really couldn't care less if there were multiple drops or none.
Originally Posted By trekkeruss <<So if you went to DisneySea you'd skip JTTCOTE because you had already been on Test Track?>> I've been to TDS; I was there for its grand opening. All I am saying is I don't see Disney bringing JTTCOTE to WDW, primarily because it would cost more money than they are (likely) willing to spend. The reason why so many attractions at TDR are so over-the-top is that Disney isn't footing the bill; OLC is.
