Originally Posted By pipanale OK... When did they wussify Snow White? Did I ride the old version with the gem mine at the end when I was there in 1996? Or had I not ridden that version in a million years? I can't remember and it's bothering me. And...Peter Pan. Something seemed new about it 2 weeks ago, but I can't say what. Did they update it recently (last 3-5 years)? I haven't ridden it much in my WDW career. It seemed to be under construction every time I was there in the late 70's and early 80's. But, something about it seemed different this time. I can't say what... Help...
Originally Posted By ChiMike Around Christmas '94 was when Snow White opened with radical changes. Between it and 20K Fantasyland took it's first hit. In my eyes, for the worse. I haven't noticed anything significantly changed in the last few years for Peter Pan, but I haven't been riding the WDW version much.
Originally Posted By Skellington88 I rarely get a chance to go on peter pan because every time I go the line is so damn long.
Originally Posted By TDLFAN Thank FP for that deal. Besides... the MK's Peter Pan is as delightful as 1971. This is the worst, most outdated version of the attraction in any of the Disney parks and not worth waiting more than 10 mins for... unless you enjoy looking at dust on a black curtail splitting the room in two. Same goes for the Snow White version of the MK. They made it worst by making it less scary, yet, they turned it into a mannequin version of the ride. Just take a ride on any of the other 3 Snow White rides at DL, TDL and DLP and see how truly bad the MK version really is! Plus, the recent redesign of the queue was poorly conceived and have created major vehicle backups inside the ride, due to the fact that SO MUCH space outside the ride is wasted due to the poor placement of the rails in the queue. In other words... they can't stack up vehicles outside the ride itself. Wasted space there. Snow gets a big fat F in every dept at WDW.
Originally Posted By TDLFAN BTW.. forgot to mention, the only "new" thingy in the Peter pan ride is the marquee outside and FP addition. Nothing else is new there.
Originally Posted By pipanale Hmmm...I wish I could put my finger on what I thought about Peter Pan was different. But, as I said, I never rode it for like the first 15 years of my life. The new Snow White is just awful. And it made my daughter cry. But, she's a 'fraidy cat
Originally Posted By ChiMike I would agree that the stackups at Snow White have reached the level of epic incompetence. These are the type of situations, situations that were unneedlessly created, that are an example of how some people who have been employed by the mouse have no business playing a role in theme park operations.
Originally Posted By danyoung >...unneedlessly...< Wow - a double negative within a single word. Nice, Chi!
Originally Posted By TDLFAN Leave to Danno to dwell on other people's negativity, even if it's imagined!!!
Originally Posted By danyoung >Leave to Danno to dwell on other people's negativity, even if it's imagined!!!< Nah, it's all fun banter with everyone but you, TDL.
Originally Posted By Witches of Morva ORDDU: My sisters and I think that Walt Disney World's version of Snow White's Scary Adventures is actually the BEST version of this ride to be found anywhere. All the others concentrate mostly on the wicked queen turned hag to the point where it becomes too much about her and not enough about Snow White and the dwarves. ORWEN: Also, the Magic Kingdom version tells the story in proper sequence from beginning to end--something I wish the Disneyland version would do, too. In fact, after riding the Florida version, the one in California is a let down. ORGOCH: Got Toads?
Originally Posted By ChiMike ^ And witches I actually agree with you when it comes to WDW v. DL's version. However it seems to me that while the actual design at WDW is better the DL version has been in much better shape. Add that to how botched WDW's unload is and it makes the superior WDW version worse off, in my book, to DL's inferior version. And I do think the original MK Snow White was even better. Just as MK's Toad was far better than DL's.
Originally Posted By BlazesOfFire I wish they would get rid of Snow White all together and put toad back there
Originally Posted By TDLFAN I like that^^^ idea. >>ORDDU: My sisters and I think that Walt Disney World's version of Snow White's Scary Adventures is actually the BEST version of this ride to be found anywhere. All the others concentrate mostly on the wicked queen turned hag to the point where it becomes too much about her and not enough about Snow White and the dwarves.<< Well my dearest ORDDU.. my gripe is not about the actual plot in the ride, but the execution. The other Snow White rides at DL, TDL and DLP excell in most ways...such as lighting, pacing, animated characters and props, special effects, sound.. etc etc. The MK version is simply a big Macy*s window with stationary mannequins and not much else happening. The only bright point in this version is the dwarfs scene in the cottage, which is comparable to the other versions. Other than that... this MK version is a dud, even if it has a more true to the movie plot. Besides... this is supposed to be Snow's *SCARY* adventures... so why not feature the Hag as the main and center character here?
Originally Posted By SIR at X-S Tech I love the WDW version of Peter Pan exactly because it's so 1971. I love that Rolly Crump style that everything has. I love that you can see all of the characters on the exagerrated Neverland, much more stylish than DL's more realistic version. The only thing I would change would be the vocals which sound nothing like the real voices. However had I been more into those Disney readalongs withthe "secondary" casts maybe I'd even like that! Loved the old Snow White, and it was campier more 1970's too! The green witch in the wacky off kilter environments! How can some of you hate the 1971 Peter Pan but love the 1971 Snow WHite?
Originally Posted By TDLFAN Maybe because the 1971 Snow was much better a ride than the 1994 version we have today???
Originally Posted By ChiMike I like the Peter Pan at WDW. I like that it has a better load/unload then DL. Some of the MK Pan areas are a nice change from DL, but design wise and current-condition wise the DL version is better. imo.
Originally Posted By Witches of Morva ORGOCH: What, TDLFAN, ducklin'? Ya don't think meetin' a bunch a little dirty ol' men livin' all tagether in one place is scary 'nuff? An' what 'bout meetin' a dang prince with a bad hair day? That's even SCARIER?! ORDDU: (sigh) I still maintain that the WDW's version of Snow White is the best. The fact that Imagineers made an attempt to tell most of the story the way they did is a BIG plus and can hardly be a valid criticism against the ride. Otherwise, you might as well rename it The Wicked Queen's Scary Adventures. But the original intent of the attraction WAS to make it about Snow White and ALL her friends/enemies--not the wicked queen alone. ORWEN: And having a dark ride which honors the FIRST animated film Uncle Walt ever created is an important attraction to hold on to. If you want to have Mr. Toad back--as I do, too--then have him evict Winnie the Pooh, instead. But NOT the fairest in the Land! Mr. Toad should have stayed where he was and the current Hundred Acre Wood section would have been a perfect area to create a dark ride for that silly ol' bear--instead of what they've got there now!
