Originally Posted By kpwdwfan Has anyone encountered unusally long lines for Fast Pass lately? On more than one ocassion last week we waited more than twenty-five minutes in a Fast Pass line. One time the Fast Pass line for Splash Mountain was outside past the Fast Pass ticket machines. Are they handing out more Fast Passes all of a sudden or was it just so crowded that the line got backed up? I've never seen Fast Pass lines like that before and was curious to see if anyone else had noticed this situation.
Originally Posted By vbdad55 I didn't when I was there- but likely could be caused by yahoo's who can;t read or adhere to their return time ontheir FP -- needs to be addressed.
Originally Posted By ChiMike Or that the fact that more and more people are using FP more and more. That Disney still gives out way to many tickets per window. And that people have begun to understand which are the rides that really need FP, e.g. Soarin' & Test Track. Sorry, had to jump in.
Originally Posted By ChiMike Hey, I didn't start the thread! Can't dispute the op, meshes with -some- of my observations.
Originally Posted By vbdad55 except we don't know what caused it,and it could be a number of things...but I haven't the energy --
Originally Posted By kpwdwfan This situation just didn't happen once, it happened several times at "E" ticket attractions. I just assumed that the attraction just broke down but I don't beleive that was the case. I tend to believe that the number of fast passes issued has increased.
Originally Posted By ChiMike ^ You are right. It is not the case. This idea that lp.com is a court of law where we have to provide indisputible evidence is a little crazy. It doesn't take much for one to understand what is going on at times. This is one of the examples. Sure Test Track breaks down more than others, but when FP lines are thick for Splash or Spiderman day after day you don't need a graduate degree to understand what forces are in play. So, kpwdwfan, going back to the opening of your thread, I too have noticed the situation. For what that's worth
Originally Posted By vbdad55 <^ You are right. It is not the case. This idea that lp.com is a court of law where we have to provide indisputible evidence is a little crazy. < some evidence would be nice...show me anywhere where someone has 'any' facts that support that notion.... I could say they issue less...without something to back it up why should we believe it has changed ? Like the rides don;t break down allthe time in summer...and like people don;t abuse the return times ? c'mon Mike-- no oneis asking for a sworn affadvit here, just some inkling someone has informatiion that this is true, other than their gut feeling...that's not too much to ask before stepping out now is it ?
Originally Posted By vbdad55 I think Dumbo goees around 4 spins more now than 10 years ago....well without anything but my opinion, it is only that-- my opinion,not gospel.
Originally Posted By ChiMike VBDad, reading things on the Internet is just that. Reading things on the Internet. I choose who to believe and who not to, I mean I could spend more time then I already am on here and dig through Eisner's comments at the annual meeting about Destination Disney or some press release about FP in '99. I could go do searches in different boards for CM reports or insider gossip, but it's still gossip because this is the Internet. I rather not spend any time doing any of that, and if some folks don't want to believe what I or someone else says, well, then fine. Big deal. I write what I write and everyone is going to have an opinion or value just as I have about what others write. With that said, I agree with the whole breakdown thing. But on the flipside you have another disadvantage that the FP system causes during the downtime. Pre-FP if an attraction ceased operations guests would no longer be able to enter the queue. Those in the queue might be able to stay if they even want to. Now with FP, while tickets are not given out people who supposedly reserved a place in line prior to the downtime are still allowed to use their FP. BUT - before FP everyone might have been forced out of the queue to start completely over when the attraction came back up. So, in essence FP gives it's users another unfair advantage over standby guests when an attraction goes down.
Originally Posted By vbdad55 I have been in a FP line when Splash went down and after 20 minutes we all had to exit the line....on a short breakdown I would agree with the statement that FP causes an additional issue -- I am not saying you're even wrong on the number of fastpasses, but I have never read anything to that effect anywhere other than conjecture..that is why I don't subscribe to it....I hope that clears up why I am skeptical.
