Originally Posted By Anacon Last Sunday we got our Haunted Mansion Holiday fast passes and then went to Buzz to do the same. It used to be that the HMH fast pass machine were not networked with the system allowing you to get a 2nd set of passes without waiting. But this was not the case. So, it seems that the HMH fast pass is now networked.
Originally Posted By Darkbeer I can confirm it.... GRR and Roger Rabbit are still the only two stand-alones.
Originally Posted By ModHatter Just the expert I was looking for Okay, I know I'm a naughty person for even asking, but if I know someone that has an Annual Pass but is not going to the park that day, can I use that pass to get a second Fast Pass, even though the passport was never used at the park entrance? Or does the pass have to be swiped at the park entrance before it can be used to get a fastpass?
Originally Posted By Darkbeer The current system REQUIRES a ticket or AP to be used at the Turnstiles prior to being valid at the FP machines... sorry, won't work... Alas, I remember when your Ralphs Card would work in the FP machines, or your Knott's AP.... but that is NO LONGER the case.......
Originally Posted By nemopoppins But it would work if you used the ticket or AP of someone who entered but then left the park, right?
Originally Posted By berol Yes, but it's fairly pointless and a slight chance of being caught with the AP being ripped up.
Originally Posted By amazedncal2 nemopoppins, a few times DD and I have entered one of the parks, handed DH our passes and then left to go shopping in Downtown Disney while DH goes and gets fastpasses (he HATES to shop. He then meets up with us in DTD and we re enter the park later in the day. Or if we are in Disneyland and want to go shop, DH might stay in Disneyland while we go and shop and he'll collect a couple of fastpasses for the evening. Same would be if someone took kids back to nap while one parent stayed at the park. I don't think this would be any different than what you are talking about. Since one person can get fastpasses for multiple people there is no way that a CM would know whether everyone is still in the park. The only trick is to make sure you are clear on a meeting place if the person who leaves intends to get back into the park
Originally Posted By SuperDry <<< But it would work if you used the ticket or AP of someone who entered but then left the park, right? >>> Of course it would work - how would Disney know that the other guest had left? <<< Yes, but it's fairly pointless and a slight chance of being caught with the AP being ripped up. >>> I'm not sure I understand what the risk is. It's quite common for someone at the FP machines to be in possession of other guests' ticket media and use them to get FPs. How would the FP computer or a nearby CM possibly know that the guest associated with a particular ticket had left the resort, did not intend to return that day, and that the FP was going to be used by a different guest?
Originally Posted By berol I think it'd only happen if they noticed the face didn't match, however that would happen, then maybe they'd say the owner could pick it up in City Hall. If the owner didn't return, they might conclude there was a fraudulent use.
Originally Posted By monorailblue ^^^ They would not. The vast majority of FPs are given out in bunches--one or two people have a bunch of passes for their family/friends. No admission medium is required to use a FastPass, and there isn't any reason to try to sort out which pass got which one in a bunch. End result? All kinds of people all day long don't use "their" FPs. It really isn't a problem. The bottom line is the admission medium needs to be scanned at the entrance to be usable for FPs that day. If it is an AP, that person must enter the park. If it is a non-AP, a day's admission has to be used up. There really isn't much room for abuse, since few APs are willing to go through the process of going into the park just to activate their pass for someone else, and few non-APs (probably none) would sacrifice a day's admission for a similar reason. So, no problem at all.
Originally Posted By RAM1984 But is it ethical? Just a question as I have been known to "fudge" on FP's myself.
Originally Posted By imadisneygal Is it ethical? Of course not. But there's no way that it would be caught unless the person using the AP stated out loud when they came in the Park, "Here's my AP so you can get extra fastpasses all day long while I'm not here." And even then, they'd have to get a CM on the ball to notice it. That said, if a CM did notice it the AP could be revoked for misuse. Unlikely but possible. I, like many others, generally bunch all of my passports for the day and send one person to the fastpass machines. Personally I think you'd be hard pressed to find an AP who would come to the Resort, park, take the tram, and enter the Parks just to leave and hand over their passport to you.
Originally Posted By RAM1984 ^^I am with you. I believe it is unethical and would not do it today. At the time we had tickets we had paid for but had not used. They were going to expire so we used them to get extra FP's. That is not an excuse; just a reason. I would never let anyone use my AP like that. For one, it is valuable and I keep it with me. I would hate to be caught abusing the system. AP's get a bad rap as it is. I like to think of myself as a good passholder.
Originally Posted By DisneyinAlaska A few years ago, I visited Disneyland with my cousin and his family. They have two young daughters that were starting to become cranky so my cousin decided they wouldn't return to the park the next day (not a problem since they live right there). Well, since they weren't returning they gave us their tickets and we were able to get fastpasses with their tickets and ours. So even though they didn't enter the park with us, we were able to use their tickets. I believe it's because we were there New Year's Eve with them and so since we were in the park after midnight, the machines were having to let us use our tickets. So when we entered the park on New Year's Day, the machines must have thought we had been in the park the whole time. It's the only time we've done that and it's probably a fluke, but it was awesome to be able to get double the fastpasses.
Originally Posted By indysoarin19 Did the rumored removal of FP at Indy ever happen? Just curious. Heading to DL Nov. 5.
Originally Posted By OceanSpace Years ago, when FP first started, you could put any ticket in there, even a ticket from 5 years prior. I know this because I was in high school with less morals than I have now. I kept all my old tickets as souveniers anyway, and by the time I bought an AP, I had a nice collection of them (old expired APs worked as well). I racked up a total of 19 tickets and old APs, which meant I could have up to 19 FPs at once. I only went to Disneyland every other month or so and I never got that many fast passes, I began to feel guilty after 2-3 of them. I usually only did it when I went with someone who paid to get in. But the point is that you used to be able to cheat the system all over the place, then Disney finally wised up. Nowadays, I hardly ever get Fast Passes, and when I do, I often wind up giving them away because I never get around to actually going on the ride. I don't know, maybe I'm trying to make up for my rebelious past.
Originally Posted By monorailblue I love giving away my unused FastPasses--particularly if they are for Space or Splash. It always brightens up the day for someone. Non-transferable, schmon-transferable!
Originally Posted By oneyepete Sometimes, when I try to give my unused FP/rider exchanges to someone, they look at me as if I am trying to con them and refuse to take them. Eventually though someone does take them.
