Originally Posted By EdisYoda <a href="http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/14393611/" target="_blank">http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/14 393611/</a> Says warrantless domestic surveillance program is unconstitutional DETROIT - A federal judge ruled Thursday that the government's warrantless wiretapping program is unconstitutional and ordered an immediate halt to it. U.S. District Judge Anna Diggs Taylor in Detroit became the first judge to strike down the National Security Agency's program, which she says violates the rights to free speech and privacy. “Plaintiffs have prevailed, and the public interest is clear, in this matter. It is the upholding of our Constitution,†Taylor wrote in her 43-page opinion. The American Civil Liberties Union filed the lawsuit on behalf of journalists, scholars and lawyers who say the program has made it difficult for them to do their jobs. The government argued that the program is well within the president's authority, but said proving that would require revealing state secrets. The ACLU said the state-secrets argument was irrelevant because the Bush administration already had publicly revealed enough information about the program for Taylor to rule.
Originally Posted By Jim in Merced CA When the warantless domestic surveillance program is judged unconstitutional, the terrorists have won.
Originally Posted By ecdc In Utah, the newest crusade by our perennial embarrassment, State Senator Chris Buttars, is to remove all voting on judges from the people and put it in the hands of the Senate. Obviously the guy missed a few civics classes. Of course, the Usual Suspects will never cop to the illegality of the wiretapping. If it had been upheld, they would have insisted they were vindicated; now that it's deemed unconstitutional, the folks who did it are no doubt just "activist judges."
Originally Posted By mele Activist judges, the media elite *and* the ACLU. I think we can all see where this thread is going.
Originally Posted By gadzuux That's why the lefties are just going ahead and filling in the blanks - to save the 'usual suspects' the trouble of the standard commie plot rants.
Originally Posted By DouglasDubh <When the warantless domestic surveillance program is judged unconstitutional, the terrorists have won.> We don't have a warantless domestic surveillance program, so it's a little hard for it to be judged unconstitutional. As far as our international surveillance program being declared unconstitutional, this decision will be overturned.
Originally Posted By Eric Paddon Nice of the ACLU to remind us why their acronym best stands for Al Qaeda and Communist Lovers Union when it doesn't stand for Anti-Christian Leftists Union. Yet another disgraceful chapter of how this wacko out of the mainstream group can always find one activist judge to do their best to weaken American security.
Originally Posted By Eric Paddon God help us all if the ACLU had existed during the Civil War when Abraham Lincoln felt compelled to suspend habaes corpus. Today, we would be two nations and blacks would still be owned as slaves.
Originally Posted By YourPalEd I think even if nea wiretapping is still done. It's better if we try to be open about it. The idea is to maintain the law, and the known traitor, george bush broke the law. The traitor, george bush, broke the law, the known traitor, hayden, broke the law, and used their power to force honest americans to break the law, by keeping secret about the crimes, and thus abbeting the criminals.
Originally Posted By YourPalEd The legal precedent was already derived years ago. Warrants, are sought, the law was broken on purpose, by the criminal, and known traitor, george bush.
Originally Posted By gadzuux Surprisingly so. I was only kidding about the "commie rants" and yet we got one anyway.
Originally Posted By YourPalEd Republicans are such ignorant liars. Everyone knows real secret agent enemies of americans do not use the phone to communicate. They use the internet like everyone else. Honesty is the only way to stop parasites.
Originally Posted By ecdc "Surprisingly so. I was only kidding about the "commie rants" and yet we got one anyway." It's almost amusing. Almost. I've made jokes in the past about McCarthy, torture, etc., only to hear later that a handful on these boards and plenty of other conservatives are A-ok with those things.
Originally Posted By vbdad55 <Republicans are such ignorant liars. < really sick of this crap.....fill in any blanks you want here and imagine an ADMIN.._________ ______________ you bring nothing to the table with this bull.... you and people like you are another reason this country is so divided. comments like this make you no better than those you criticize.
Originally Posted By vbdad55 of course those on the left here who routinely rip conseratives will not bring this up -- SPP you are always asking for those in the middle and even those on the right to step up to stop this nonsense -- where are you when this comes from the left ? just asking....unless you agree with these tactics when they come from the left ?
Originally Posted By YourPalEd Republicans - Me! Me! Me! MY Table!!! I'm the billionaire here! I'm the one who stole all the money, and spent it on lies in the media. You must only use the words i have spent billions, for other people to tell me how to twist them for my own selfish ends. Only a parasite, a murdering sinner, would call themselves a republican, or try to defend these lowlife, hateful scum. The only people to hate, are republicans, who are all hate mongers at this moment in u.s.a. history. Repulbicans are all liars.
Originally Posted By vbdad55 I and others in the middle step up and try and address comments from Beau, yet you criticize everyone for not standing up to blanket garbage remarks -- let's see where you stand on this, as it will be tell tale for me ( and maybe a lot of others who view themselves as moderate republicans or independents -- SPP, will wait to see your view....because it will tell me if you really are against this , or are just against when it comes from the far right here....
