Originally Posted By Darkbeer <a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2008/09/26/us/politics/26ads.html?_r=1&em&oref=slogin" target="_blank">http://www.nytimes.com/2008/09...f=slogin</a> >>A radio advertisement running in Wisconsin and other contested states misleadingly reports that Mr. McCain “has stood in the way of” federal financing for stem cell research; Mr. McCain did once oppose such federally supported research but broke with President Bush to consistently support it starting in 2001 (his running mate, Gov. Sarah Palin of Alaska, does not support it). A commercial running here on Thursday morning highlighting Mr. McCain’s votes against incentives for alternative energy misleadingly asserts he supports tax breaks for “one source of energy: oil companies.” Mr. McCain’s proposed corporate tax break would cover all companies, including those developing new sources of power. A new television advertisement playing in areas with high concentrations of elderly voters and emphasizing Mr. McCain’s support for President Bush’s failed plan for private Social Security accounts misleadingly implies Mr. McCain supported “cutting benefits in half” — an analysis of Mr. Bush’s plan that would have applied to upper-income Americans retiring in the year 2075. A much criticized Spanish-language television advertisement wrongly links the views of Mr. McCain, who was a champion of the sweeping immigration overhaul pushed by Mr. Bush, to those of Rush Limbaugh, a harsh critic of the approach, and, frequently, of Mr. McCain. The advertisement implies Mr. Limbaugh is one of Mr. McCain’s “Republican friends,” and quotes Mr. Limbaugh as calling Mexicans “stupid and unqualified.” Mr. Limbaugh has written that his quotes were taken out of context and that he was mocking the views of others. In all, Mr. Obama has released at least five commercials that have been criticized as misleading or untruthful against Mr. McCain’s positions in the past two weeks. Mr. Obama drew complaints from many of the independent fact-checking groups and editorial writers who just two weeks ago were criticizing Mr. McCain for producing a large share of this year’s untruthful spots (“Pants on Fire,” the fact-checking Web site PolitiFact.com wrote of Mr. Obama’s advertisement invoking Mr. Limbaugh; “False!” FactCheck.org said of his commercial on Social Security.) Some Democrats expressed concern that Mr. Obama, in stretching the truth in some of his advertisements, was putting at risk the “above politics” persona he has tried to cultivate.<<
Originally Posted By gottaluvdavillains And how many of McCains are full of lies... Come on DB - why not show both sides... Are you suggesting ALL McCains ads are truthful - even the one before the debate or his announced decision to attend the debate saying he won the debate... It would be ridiculous to base a vote on a campain commercial/ad.
Originally Posted By Darkbeer Why should I should both sides, there are PLENTY of other LP users that post "the other side".....
Originally Posted By gottaluvdavillains All I am saying is why not compare who has the most lies out there... You are saying Obama has 5 lying ads as to McCains.... Just saying....
Originally Posted By Darkbeer No, the New York Times is claiming at LEAST 5 lying ads.... >>In all, Mr. Obama has released at least five commercials that have been criticized as misleading or untruthful against Mr. McCain’s positions in the past two weeks. <<
Originally Posted By ecdc >>Why should I should both sides, there are PLENTY of other LP users that post "the other side".....<< DB has a point. I've never posted an article or link critical of Obama; I have no business criticizing DB for his posts. But DB, I think people are looking for more analysis and less selective cutting and pasting. You do post titles that imply one thing, and the very body of the link you give shows quite another.
Originally Posted By mawnck If it makes you feel better, Darkbeer, I agree that the Obama campaign has no business distorting the record (or lying, whatever) in their ads. I also don't see the point. There's plenty enough to tell the truth about. And I will defend to the death your right to post articles. And will have no hesitation in mercilessly harassing you about them. I hope some of our more rabid GOP cheerleaders will note that the liberal ol' NYT is being critical of Obama. Now how could that be?
Originally Posted By Sport Goofy Note that the NYT doesn't contest the ad where Obama calls McCain a liar. I guess that one must be true -- heck, not hard to figure out that one is true.
Originally Posted By Dabob2 I'm sorry to see ads by Obama that distort the truth, as some of these do - as liberals, we shouldn't be afraid to say so. They are dwarfed, in both number and seriousness, by the distortions in the various McCain ads, but that doesn't make it right.
