Originally Posted By Darkbeer <a href="http://www.floridatoday.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060712/BUSINESS/607120351/1003" target="_blank">http://www.floridatoday.com/ap ps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060712/BUSINESS/607120351/1003</a> >> The collapse of a 35-year-old woman Monday after a ride at the Walt Disney World Resort is the latest in a string of injuries and deaths at Disney parks in the last year. Disney reported four deaths and 19 injuries at its Orlando parks from the first quarter of 2005 to the first quarter of 2006, according to reports obtained Tuesday by FLORIDA TODAY. Although largely exempt from state oversight, Disney and other Florida park operators send quarterly reports to the state Department of Agriculture and Consumer Services under an agreement signed several years ago.<<
Originally Posted By Labuda Are they that desperate for news that they need to rehash everything because some woman had heart attack symptoms?
Originally Posted By wahooskipper It isn't simply because some woman had heart attack symptoms. There are ongoing, documented cases of illness and injuries with Mission: Space and, while I think one report of a death getting splashed all over the media is too much a series of incidents is certainly worthy of media attention.
Originally Posted By Kennesaw Tom You want to keep in mind that it all sells paper. Not to mention the "we hate the mouse crowd".
Originally Posted By wahooskipper I don't think this is motivate by we hate the mouse. The amusement industry is always good fodder for the media during the summer.
Originally Posted By trekkeruss <<a series of incidents is certainly worthy of media attention.>> Yes, but the story is misleading. It implies that all these deaths are related in some fashion, which they are not. The women who died on PotC and the girls that died at TL? Notice how the story leaves out the details of those incidents. Put those facts in, and the story isn't as sensational anymore. Make no mistake, they're selling the sizzle, not the steak.
Originally Posted By cape cod joe This is the reason I go to WDW all the time because it's so safe for the kids. 15 million people a year and a couple deaths. Fried and junk food is MUCH more dangerous than Disney.
Originally Posted By WilliamK99 It isn't simply because some woman had heart attack symptoms. There are ongoing, documented cases of illness and injuries with Mission: Space and, while I think one report of a death getting splashed all over the media is too much a series of incidents is certainly worthy of media attention.<< The problem is, every person that died on Mission Space had a pre-exisiting condition. They could just have easily died on IASW.
Originally Posted By Goofyernmost Another thing to incorporate in the thought pattern is that any given day the population of WDW is larger then most small cities (not towns) in the U.S. Tell me any city that size that wouldn't have at least one death per week. The numbers are smaller because, for the most part, the people attending WDW are not previously known as terminal and are considered in realitively good health. When compared to any other resort in the world, I'm thinking that it is the largest in size and consistant occupation of large numbers of people, albeit constantly changing people. To have a number of incidents on rides or places that put additional stress on bodies should not come as a surprise or be news worthy to anyone. Anyone that knows or even thinks they have a physical problem that might kill them will not ride those rides, but like everything else, life is a crap shoot. Some win, some lose.
Originally Posted By wahooskipper But William...people aren't dying on It's a Small World so I think there are forces at play on that ride that are contributing factors. I must have had tens of thousands of passengers on the Jungle Cruise and noone ever had a heart attack or even symptoms of fainting on that ride. Yes, people are going to die at Walt Disney World. If 2 people had died riding a golf cart at the Magnolia Course the past year...while many more people had reported getting ill after riding the golf court...then I'd be looking into what is going on at that golf course too. But the fact that this particular ride has an extraordinary number of incidents vs other rides on property is cause for concern.
Originally Posted By cape cod joe I lost the lottery last night with a one in 149 million chance. 4 deaths at WDW in how many years of 15 mill guests? It's even safer than the Ridge where two workers actually got killed by lightening several years back.
Originally Posted By wahooskipper Two people on Mission: Space in one year...and countless complaints that resulted in trips to the hospital and/or reports to first aid. Not too mention a complete alteration to some of the ride.
Originally Posted By WilliamK99 So maybe we should close POTC, because someone had a heart attack on it last year?
Originally Posted By sherrytodd Close the teacups! They cause dizzyness and nausea and subject you to centrifical g-forces!
Originally Posted By vbdad55 <Are they that desperate for news that they need to rehash everything because some woman had heart attack symptoms?< also symptoms of low blood pressure , low blood sugar count and web MD will tell you too many other things to count...she was checked out as she should have been though and released.... <The problem is, every person that died on Mission Space had a pre-exisiting condition. They could just have easily died on IASW. < also correct, or on the plane on the way there.....or in the car etc...I am not making light of the death's, and if the ride was proven to cause death's, I would be first in line to say shut it down,....but we don't ground the airlines and many more mulitples of people die in the air - or on cruise ships.... I understand why the papers run stories on the deaths..it IS news....but someone who is dizzy.... where was the press when I got off those darn tea cups with my nieces last month....took me 10 minutes to get my 'sea legs' back... the sharks are circling and the future of this ride will always be clouded now....
Originally Posted By wahooskipper William, if 2 people had a heart attack and died after riding POTC last year and countless more needed medical attention after riding then yes, I would encourage looking into the ride to see what might be a contributing factor. But, we have decades of data on people who have ridden Pirates and a couple of years for people who have ridden Mission: Space.
Originally Posted By Ursula Where are the stats on other amusement park rides? Why wasn't a comparison done in that slanted article? Heck, there are other amusement parks all over Florida...or is it that they prefer to not state their stats?
Originally Posted By wahooskipper Florida is a bit unique in that the amusement parks in Florida to a great extent govern themselves in terms of safety. I believe Disney has started volunteering information over the past few years as the microscope has been put on them.
Originally Posted By fkurucz Perhaps the real problem with mission space is that its too realistic, and might truly require riders to have above average health. I would hate to see it go, but given the state of fitness (or lack of) and obesity in this great nation of ours, perhaps MS was a bad idea.
Originally Posted By barboy wahoo, I want you to try and counter this: (A) 2 people have died after riding M. Space. Both deaths have been attributed to preexisting/undiagnosed conditions. (B) There has been approx. 10 Million rides on M. Space since it opened--- again 10 MILLION. So, what do you think?
