Originally Posted By Kar2oonMan Carly Fiorina went to her favorite topic last night: The Clintons' marriage. As the ultimate Mean Girl, she cannot prevent herself from going there. Her poll numbers are in the dumper, so she's trying to get some attention at the kids' table debates, and this technique is what seems to work for her. I think it makes Fiorina come off as very small and catty, but then, I wouldn't vote for her in a million years anyway. Are there recent Democrat examples of this sort of name calling and petty jr. high sort of nonsense? Or is this what the GOP, in the days of Trump, have been reduced to?
Originally Posted By SingleParkPassholder I don't know what Hillary Clinton did to Fiorina personally, but her continued personal attacks on her make Fiorina a shrill, bitter old b!tch who is easy to hate. Maybe because Boxer is an in-law relative to the Clintons somehow. Maybe Bill hit on her. With any luck she's done after Iowa. I don't recall any Dems doing this in recent memory. Not to say they haven't, but the hatred the GOP has for Clinton and Obama as well goes beyond just a difference in political beliefs. If Fiorina and her cronies had any kind of a conscience they'd be ashamed.
Originally Posted By ecdc >>Or is this what the GOP, in the days of Trump, have been reduced to?<< Yes. It's amazing. They see Trump winning so they emulate him. The GOP/Dem dichotomy is a false one. I'm sure someone, somewhere, can dig up something by a Democratic Congressman or a local state rep that's stupid and nasty and mean. But there's a spectrum and a frequency of behavior that we have to look at. In other words, you can bleed from a shaving nick or you can bleed from a gunshot wound. They aren't the same. The GOP is in a weird place right now. It is full of angry white people who feel like they were promised a certain way of life and they don't have it. If you haven't had the chance, I highly recommend David Frum's article in the Atlantic on this. Frum was a Bush adviser who coined the phrase "Axis of evil," so he's not exactly liberal. But it's a clear-eyed assessment of where the GOP is at.
Originally Posted By Kar2oonMan >>It is full of angry white people who feel like they were promised a certain way of life and they don't have it.<< And yet they will continue to vote for people who will ensure that they will never have the American Dream because guns.
Originally Posted By ecdc <a target="blank" rel="nofollow" href="http://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2016/01/the-great-republican-revolt/419118/">http://www.theatlantic.com/mag.../419118/</a> Here's Frum's piece. He puts the divide more at immigration than anything else. He notes, for example, that polls of most Republicans show they have no problem with raising taxes on the wealthy. But they despise the notion of takers. It's all about workers vs takers (and immigrants are takers).
