Originally Posted By dagobert According to WDW1974 from the WDWMagic.com board, Marvel's Guardians of the Galaxy are taking over the TOT at the US parks. <a target="blank" rel="nofollow" href="http://forums.wdwmagic.com/threads/marvel-coming-to-wdw.911512/page-3#post-7136764">http://forums.wdwmagic.com/thr...-7136764</a> I can only hope that this is a joke, but apparently this guy is trusted on that board and he claims to have insider sources. If that's true, Disney is destroying one of the best rides ever created.
Originally Posted By dagobert Just terrible <a target="blank" rel="nofollow" href="http://forums.wdwmagic.com/threads/marvel-coming-to-wdw.911512/page-18#post-7137810">http://forums.wdwmagic.com/thr...-7137810</a>
Originally Posted By monorailblue I see this as about as far fetched as anything else reported to be or have been in development. Right up there with OTSRs on Splash Mountain. On the other hand, the physics of a rethemed ToT would be virtually unchanged, so whence the venom from fans? Is the ToT experience really about the optics and the story?
Originally Posted By ni_teach I have to agree with monorailblue that this sounds far fetched. I would guess that when they talked about moving the Marvel characters to the DCA that some "blue Sky" ideas were kicked around and this may have come out of that. Keep in mind when they "blue Sky" ideas they are suppose to think outside the box but 99.9% ideas that come out of these suggestions never happen.
Originally Posted By Dabob2 WDW1974 is a pretty reliable source, but this also sounds weird to me. How in the world do you fit GOTG into a 30's hotel? There's also the fact that the pre-drop "show" is different in FL and CA, and supposedly they want it both places, which would necessitate extra expense. I suppose if they totally re-themed it, so it's not a 30's hotel anymore (but what else would make sense for that building, in the GOTG world?), and created more Marvel stuff around it in the remaining expansion space, it could sorta kinda quasi work. But then they'd have to do something similar in WDW, and its setting there works particularly well as is. At first glance, it seems like the worst square peg in a round hole idea since putting fast-moving Rocket Rods on top of a designed-for-slow-vehicles flat PM track. But hey - they did that one.
Originally Posted By RoadTrip ^^^ That would be Disney's worst idea EVER. The TOT experience ABSOLUTELY IS about the optics and the story. Those are what keep it from being just another drop ride.
Originally Posted By hopemax Spirit has re-iterated this is not Blue Sky but active development. DL's seems well on its way, WDW comes down to if they are willing to pay for it (which when it comes to WDW, provides a small ray of hope.) Of course this is a dumb idea, but current executive management is so far removed at this point from "getting" what Disney is, that all they know is current Disney IP, has to be better than an old IP Disney has to pay for. End of story. Whatever success ToT enjoys can only be improved upon by making it themed to a current franchise. If this comes true, it will definitely "challenge" people's ideas of the competency of the executives running the place, and WDI's willingness to do what the bosses say. As gets repeatedly pointed out, "this isn't Walt's company anymore." This is exactly the type of thing modern Disney does. By any analytical measure GotG is a "better" property for Disney than Twilight Zone. If you understand the Disney Difference, you obviously reach a different conclusion. So that tells you how much the execs understand the Disney Difference. >. How in the world do you fit GOTG into a 30's hotel? < The working theory is something based on The Collector. Some people think a place to store his collections. Given it's sci-fi I wonder if he would just "collect" a vintage Hollywood hotel in its entirety, grounds and all.
Originally Posted By doombuggy Sounds to me like this supposedly trusted source is testing on just how gullible people are on the internet
Originally Posted By hopemax This guy on Twitter thought so too https://twitter.com/21royalstreet/status/711353639302930432 May have to copy and paste that link.
Originally Posted By dagobert <a target="blank" rel="nofollow" href="http://twitter.com/21royalstreet/status/711353639302930432">http://twitter.com/21royalstre...02930432</a> You have to remove the "s" from http.
Originally Posted By berol It struck me as bizarre, but then I realized I know nothing about the plans. I'm more clueless than anything else.
Originally Posted By monorailblue Of course, I can't claim any special personal knowledge . . . but Star Wars in the Simba Lot seemed more likely than this.
Originally Posted By FerretAfros If this was coming from just about anybody else, I would dismiss it as nonsense. But there seems to be enough consensus among reliable sources that this is something that's being worked on, and that it's a truly terrible idea The only silver lining I can think of is that DCA's Tower could potentially get the updated drop sequences that were programmed (and held back) during its construction so they could have a cheap "new" addition to the park a few years after the ride opened. Depending how they build this supposed Marvel land surrounding TOT (which is in a very awkward position to be annexed into another land, since it faces away from the future development) and how thorough the re-theme is, it could potentially work, but it seems like a truly awful idea for WDW >>There's also the fact that the pre-drop "show" is different in FL and CA, and supposedly they want it both places, which would necessitate extra expense.<< This is what I never understand about why Disney clones so much stuff. Yes, the concepts are the same, but the overwhelming majority of the time there are differences between the versions of the attraction. The actual fabrication and construction is where the big expenses come from, not the concept and design side; it shouldn't cost significantly more to make a Jack Sparrow AA compared to a Barack Obama AA compared to an Ariel AA. Yet another reason (among so very many) that it just doesn't make sense to do it in WDW
Originally Posted By RoadTrip If you get rid of the "Hollywood that never was but always will be" feel of Hollywood and Sunsets Boulevards it would totally destroy the best part of the park. I hope there is no way they could be so stupid. As far as I'm concerned, '74 is a legend in his OWN mind.
Originally Posted By oc_dean This is so proposterous on so many levels .. like this one for instance - You walk down old Hollywood circa 1920s/30s/40s ..... and looming in the background to the right .... is this Guardians of the Galaxy themed building! Makes perfect thematic sense! About as much sense as Trump being a good contender for the White House. ;-)
Originally Posted By FerretAfros This really is the kind of concept that only an executive could love. From a purely logical/numbers standpoint, it's a way to get a "new" attraction with minimal investment, and would be a way to sidestep the Marvel contract with Universal and avoid the pesky Twilight Zone license from CBS. As far as out-of-place characters go, it's just a hop, skip, and a jump beyond Mermaid in California, Frozen in Norway, or Monsters in Tomorrowland But from the perspective of *anybody* who has spent time in the park (say, your family of once-in-a-lifetime visitors from Kansas), it just doesn't make any sense. TOT is one of the headliner attractions for all of WDW; people tell their friends about it when they get home. It's one of the modern classics, not because it's a drop ride (nearly every amusement park has one these days) but because of the unique format it's presented in. Sure, there's a chance that adding Guardians wouldn't mess it up too much, but that seems like a huge risk to run in a park that only has 5 rides and is about to shut down about half of the walking areas I can see how this idea would make sense from the perspective of a clueless executive who thinks that running theme parks are just like operating a chain of stores at the mall. But it just isn't a good idea at any level
Originally Posted By mawnck <--------- Always thought the ToT had one of the most half-assed backstories of any ride in the Disney parks. And that's really saying something. It's just a generic spooky halloween story you have to endure while you're waiting to "do the ride" - and bears no resemblance to the intelligent dramas that appeared on The Twilight Zone. I can't get upset about them replacing it with something that's had a little thought put into it. As for it not fitting the area theme, I think that horse has left the barn, moved to Tahiti, and opened a snowcone stand. The theme is now "how do we stuff our current franchises into the existing infrastructure?" I, for one, welcome our new Marvel overlords.
Originally Posted By 2001DLFan As ridiculous as the concept sounds, don't write it off as something they wouldn't do. What WDI is actually running through blue sky is sometimes frustrating and WRONG. If (when) that actually go through with the concept, we can look back to this conversation and wonder how we could have done more to discourage it instead of thinking they wouldn't actually do something so stupid.
