Originally Posted By donnyaz I was thinking about a way to plus the Haunted mansion is to take out the AA's ballroom scene keep the peppers ghost effect but use HD projection.This would allow for CGI charecters that would acheive this effect in a much more ghostly and beliveble way.I think Walt would like this.
Originally Posted By Schmitty Good Vibes That's a good idea. I'm envisioning all kinds of creepy things. I'm still sorry that 40 some odd years ago they went with 'funny' not 'scary'. I suppose it wouldn't be scary today.
Originally Posted By donnyaz Yeah the neat thing is this would even lend it self to the Overlay during christmas,it would reduce operation costs,plus the ride and if your wanted to think green I am sure it would use less energy.Win Win
Originally Posted By Mr F My concern is that the Projections would look flat, like the Peppers ghost effects used in the Sleeping Beauty Castle Walk-thru. I would much prefer the ghost look 3-Dimensional verses 2-D, which is what the Animatronics Achieve.
Originally Posted By donnyaz outside of Disneyland I have seen this effect used in a haunted house to make ghost look like they were flying out of a coffin If done correctly with the right CGI it looks great.
Originally Posted By Dabob2 The ballroom scene has always been my favorite, and there's something about the Pepper's Ghost AA's that is creepy and beautiful at the same time. They just look RIGHT in that scene. Maybe on the right side of the ballroom where there's not that much going on. But the left side with the dancers, the organist, and the dueling paintings look great as they are. I'd rather they use projected images in other scenes. The hallway or the farther-back layers of the graveyard would seem obvious choices. What would be important is that they not look too much like animated projections. "Quick and done" (like a ghost flying out of a coffin) would be the way to go. Maybe in the seance scene, too, especially as Madame Leota summons them...
Originally Posted By donnyaz I think even if they wanted to keep the same AA images HD Projection would pluss the scene by making them more ghost like and less reflection like and would greatly reduce the possiblity of breakdown
Originally Posted By danyoung Sorry, but projection of any type just wouldn't be the same as the reflected image of a true 3D figure. I haven't seen the haunted house that you mentioned, but I do work in video and projection. I just can't see how this would be any better than what we have now.
Originally Posted By Bellella I don't really know how they can make the Haunted Mansion more green, since I don't know how much power it uses. But the ballroom scene, and all the others, need to stay. They're already using some cool projection effects (the bride, Madame Leota) so I don't know how they could possibly improve it. And by the way, it may be funnier than it was originally intended, but to me it's just frightening enough.
Originally Posted By 999HAUNTS I love it just the way it is as long as they keep M. Leota from floating around and keep her on her table.
Originally Posted By Bellella They only made her float around because she floats around in the movie.
Originally Posted By donnyaz I think the floating effect is excellent.Man purest dont like change even when its for the better
Originally Posted By Dabob2 It's been so long since I've seen the non-holiday version, I haven't even seen the floating effect yet.
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Originally Posted By TMICHAEL The floating Leota is done quite well. Anyone who doesn't like it is complaining just to complain. I mean really, it's the same Leota, saying the same lines that she has always said. Who cares if the movie Leota floated first? It is a great plus to update the original effect.
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Originally Posted By Dabob2 The movie Leota may have floated first, but if you look at the original concept art for the HM from the 60's, you'll see that the imagineers wanted her to float from the beginning; they just didn't have the technology to make it work at that time.
Originally Posted By 999HAUNTS <The floating Leota is done quite well. Anyone who doesn't like it is complaining just to complain.> That's not a very fair statement. I prefer the table version because I don't care to see the wire everytime she floats. It's not a complaint, it's a preference. Nothing wrong with that.
